Sugar Ray Robinson vs Floyd Mayweather Jr.

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  • hogey
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    #171
    SRR was a couple of levels above Floyd in pretty much every department. He was bigger, faster and hit very hard add that to the fact his stamina levels were off the scale and he had one of the greatest chins ever. Floyds normal tactics would not work with a fighter of the skill. speed and natural size of Robinson and he would have had to come into range and then its only a matter of time before he gets put to sleep by a perfectly timed hook. There are fighters out their who Mayweather would have been out of his depth with Robinson was certainly one as was Tommy Hearns who would have had Floyd sleeping like a baby within 3 rounds.
    None of that means that Floyd was not a great fighter, but some are just greater also he was never really a proper welterweight and the comparision for him against the greats should be made at lighter weights.
    Last edited by hogey; 10-29-2022, 04:27 PM.

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      #172
      Originally posted by hogey
      SRR was a couple of levels above Floyd in pretty much every department. He was bigger, faster and hit very hard add that to the fact his stamina levels were off the scale and he had one of the greatest chins ever. Floyds normal tactics would not work with a fighter of the skill. speed and natural size of Robinson and he would have had to come into range and then its only a matter of time before he gets put to sleep by a perfectly timed hook. There are fighters out their who Mayweather would have been out of his depth with Robinson was certainly one as was Tommy Hearns who would have had Floyd sleeping like a baby within 3 rounds.
      None of that means that Floyd was not a great fighter, but some are just greater also he was never really a proper welterweight and the comparision for him against the greats should be made at lighter weights.
      I agree Robinson beats Floyd, too big. But I think it's a competitive fight. 116-112 Robinson sounds fair.

      I think Hearns has a really bad night with Floyd. Look at Ray in the first fight, basic lateral movement had Hearns befuddled. Floyd's defense is letter grades better than Ray. That lateral movement, basics. Floyd will make anyone miss inside the pocket. I love Leonard, but lets keep it real. Floyd vs Hearns is a pickem at the window.

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        #173
        Originally posted by hogey
        SRR was a couple of levels above Floyd in pretty much every department. He was bigger, faster and hit very hard add that to the fact his stamina levels were off the scale and he had one of the greatest chins ever. Floyds normal tactics would not work with a fighter of the skill. speed and natural size of Robinson and he would have had to come into range and then its only a matter of time before he gets put to sleep by a perfectly timed hook. There are fighters out their who Mayweather would have been out of his depth with Robinson was certainly one as was Tommy Hearns who would have had Floyd sleeping like a baby within 3 rounds.
        None of that means that Floyd was not a great fighter, but some are just greater also he was never really a proper welterweight and the comparision for him against the greats should be made at lighter weights.
        Wrong try watching people floyd fought and rays era you crazy person ray fought in a way to outdated era missing mutiple advances they had in Floyd's era along with smoother movements

        you obviously never watched 70s cause 40s was outdated compared to that to let alone 90s which was even more advanced then 70s so your a crazy person
        Last edited by Ascended; 11-05-2022, 10:05 AM.

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          #174
          Is there still any idiot who claim old cavemen are better than modern fighters? Floyd 12-0s SRR. Or, murders him without sweating. SRR was modern for 40s-50s. He was basically 60s fighter. Even Duran would beat him who was from 70s-80s.

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            #175
            Originally posted by Silence
            Is there still any idiot who claim old cavemen are better than modern fighters? Floyd 12-0s SRR. Or, murders him without sweating. SRR was modern for 40s-50s. He was basically 60s fighter. Even Duran would beat him who was from 70s-80s.
            no he babasically was a 40s fighter its a clear difference in skill and movement in 60s to

            Floyd runs though him 1st round
            it is no video proof of ray moving as good or fighting guys who moved as good as people in Floyd's era ask them they wont provide

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              #176
              Sports science and nutrition has moved on 70 years or so since then ..evolution can't be denied Floyd would have insane advantages that negate any difference in skill and talent

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                #177
                Originally posted by davef
                Sports science and nutrition has moved on 70 years or so since then ..evolution can't be denied Floyd would have insane advantages that negate any difference in skill and talent
                to these crazy people here who don't watch they think boxers never got better since 40s

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                  #178
                  If you transplanted Robinson to today's era, he would benefit from today's sports training and nutrition as well.

                  That being said, Floyd would avoid a guy like that altogether

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by djtmal
                    If you transplanted Robinson to today's era, he would benefit from today's sports training and nutrition as well.

                    That being said, Floyd would avoid a guy like that altogether
                    this topic has nothing to do with a person who is updating to a era so you make no sense using that silly quote why does he need to benefit from anything if he was ray the so called most skilled small fighter ever which he isnt top 20

                    and if you mean avoid cause ray was that outdated yea i would to i wouldnt wanna make a fool of somebody that outdated
                    Last edited by Ascended; 11-05-2022, 03:10 PM.

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by moneytheman

                      this topic has nothing to do with a person who is updating to a era so you make no sense using that silly quote why does he need to benefit from anything if he was ray the so called most skilled small fighter ever which he isnt top 20

                      and if you mean avoid cause ray was that outdated yea i would to i wouldnt wanna make a fool of somebody that outdated
                      This post is terrible for many reasons. SRR is Home all time and would have smoked Floyd at 147. Destroyed him and KO’d him. But at 130/135 I have Floyd top 2 ever. It’s him and Duran.

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