Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao in October or November, Says Roach

[And Still]

Bro before you continue let me say this; Internet and real life are two different things. I went to the a few Pac fight and I never once saw a filipino act rowdy are talk **** like you claim.
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So Jay in this video is lying when he heard the comments....right?

Let's just dead it. Because I don't like how you came at me with your previous responses. Whether you disagreed or not.

Because, clearly, I'm not making this stuff up.

[pbftxrs316]

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In a recent interview with 790THEZONE, Freddie Roach said he saw the fight, and thought it was a great fight, however Mayweather "Legs are Gone",
and he is a "pedestrain" at Welterweight.

Noteable Quotes
"If Pacquiao catches him he will finish him."

" His style now is very good for the fans because he didnt run and he came to fight."

"I will probably get into a fight with Roger, because he is so disrespectful,"

"Mayweather is going to talk trash, and Manny will say GOD will decide."

"I predict Roger will be jail, for hitting the girl, but I am a girl and he will have a tougher time with me."

"We will Knock Mayweather Out."


HE ALSO SAYS HE SPOKE WITH BOB ARUM, AND BOB ARUM TOLD HIM THAT HE IS ON HIS WAY TO THE PHILP. TO TALK TO MANNY ABOUT ACCEPTING THE FIGHT WITH MAYWEATHER.



WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS?

i'm happy he said this---and he's supposed to say it, but freddie roach can't fight for manny--- manny has to fight, freddie can talk all he wants, and has been talking for manny---manny has to prove this, not freddie---it seems freddie is more confident than manny himself---i'm telling you---freddie has been making the bold statements, not manny---

but as far as the acutal interview, and you how much i have love for you my brother horus, we could have done without it, you know why? coz freddie roach changes his mind too much---so , you know i'm not faulting your horus, but didn't freddie change his mind on how hard floyd would be----or the drug test cutoff date----and didn't freddie duck shane for manny---now, he's saying floyd's legs are gone---

you know horus---people used to bash floyd on here for downgrading his opponents before his fights----calling him c class fighters and **** like that---then he goes in there and proves it---yet---for the last 4 fights---freddie has basically downgraded manny's opponents and pretty much told us why manny was fighting them, for those reasons--it made me chuckle horus---and not a lot makes me chuckle--

oh, and b4 i forget, i didn't turn dow your invitation to join the mayweather mafia---don't think i did---my computers are shot to ****, and i was gone from this site for a while, and didn't want to join the mafia and not contribute like i wanted to---i still feel like i'm apart of it, even though i didn't officially let you know--you know i always have your back kid---i'm here when you need me---i've been repping floyd nonstop so don't worry---and i have your radio show too soon----lol----i'm sure you're awaiting my input vocally---

anyway, freddie roach is allowed to think this way---it's what happens afterwards that make the difference though---he needs to tell manny to take the test, and stop making up cutoff dates---coz nobody will care about the margarito fight or cotto rematch or foreman fight as much as the mayweather fight---and given manny's history of fighting floyd's leftovers---i dare him to fight shane now---i double dare him---if he does, and doesn't get criticized for it----manny's fans are nothing more than what i've always called them---groupies---

manny has to fight floyd---coz if floyd decides to fight martinez at 160, and beats him, which he will, manny's number 1 p4p reign will end---and it's already ended on different boxing sites already---

manny doesn't have the confidence freddie has---it's been proven---floyd already said manny isn't versatile and is one dimensional, and just a good puncher and he's smaller---he will beat manny, probably easier than jmm, don't be shocked if he stops him---coz he's been stopped before---it won't be a shock if he beats manny----manny in turn, sues floyd and rather fight him in court, than in the ring----

so, freddie can talk all the trash he wants, he's not getting in the ring and getting that ass taxed by floyd---this is what floyd has gone on record and said----he's not worried about what arum and roach says, or the fans----they aren't the fighter---what does manny want---you think roach is going to fight floyd? man please---roach needs to stick to training, arum to promoting--better promoting anyway--he's doing a piss poor job----

floyd wants to see and hear what manny has to say----not freddie---freddie's words are like broken records---manny is ducking floyd, freddie may want to tell manny this, so manny bulids up the confidence to fight floyd--and stop changing his stance all the time and letting his team make choices for him, coz it's making him look like a ****ing sissy the more freddie roach and bobo arum talks for him----tell manny to man up and take that ass whooping like a man---freddie watched the fight, but manny didn't he said----

so freddie is focused on round 2 of the fight---and floyd getting stunned, but not focusing on floyd recovering fast and overpowering shane, who is stronger than manny---and will be outmuscled by floyd, and manny already went on record saying floyd is bigger----

what did freddie not watch the rest of the round and not see floyd look like he came out the stronger fighter? and it showed the rest of the fight---

didn't manny's face look horrible after his fights with cotto and clottey, who basically doesn't have half the skill floyd has and used floyd's techniques against judah, and said he did---and clottey didn't even fight manny, yet, is face looked fresher after the fight---you mean to tell me floyd's legs are gone? roach please----

manny's heart is gone--you can tell it peaked after the cotto fight when he was in talks to fight floyd---all of a sudden manny decided he's rather sue the mayweathers, then fight floyd mayweather jr.....freddie's words don't mean ****----

when and if manny musters up the balls to fight floyd on an even playing field, which really isn't even to begin with, seeing how floyd is so much more skilled than manny, so much more balanced, so much more of a sharper puncher, so much more accurate, meaning his offense is better----defense is much better--look at the compubox statistics between the 2---

floyd mayweather jr is a complete fighter---manny pacquiao is not a complete fighter---that we do know---and when they fight--manny will not only be dominated all around the ring, he will look like he's in his 1st pro fight against an elite champion--basically in over his head--and he will be stopped by round 8----meaning he will be stopped then or earlier---i've said this so many times--manny will get stopped by floyd by the end of the 8th round---stay tuned and mark these words---i won't bbe shocked as it happens either----

[Khalid X]

Mayweather is just all wrong for Pacquiao. I still believe Pac is his greatest threat at 147 but I wouldn't put money on it. Floyd can play Marquez on the outside better than Marquez can play Marquez. But mark my words when I say that if these two fight, Floyd is going to make it a rough, inside fight. Very rough.

I actually thought about this for a second and Manny does the smarted thing any fighter can do which is this; If you aren't a good inside fighter don't try to be. Every ref tells fighters that if they engage with their opponent they will let them fight on the inside, but if not they will break it up.

So if you are terrible on the inside, like Manny is, then just hold and wait for the ref to break it up. If your opponent keeps doing it, then he will get points taking away for excessive clinching and holding. Kessler vs Ward is a good example in that because the ref told kessler if he wouldn't try to engage he would have broken it up, but because Kessler tried to fight back, he wasn't gonna penalize Ward for his tactics.

[M.I Truth ?]

spacing is very important to pacquiao, if you stay outside he has no answer, on the inside i have seen just about 0 from pacquiao that suggest he has a legit inside game.

he has to be at midrange.

i remember in the hatton fight how hatton was going to be all over him and just make him pay and make mayweather submit on the inside, mayweather needed just about 0 space to get off, i couldnt believe it, im dead serious, thats why the hatton fight to me is one of the most impressive because he beat hatton at his own game. the body punching, the combinations,

hatton was supposed to come in stronger since he wasnt cutting weight, which is why i dont buy these retroactive bs excuses about mayweather cherry picking at lightweight.

basically people are saying pac should be all over mayweather, but the problem is that mayweather has the ability to make the fight very ****ing ugly on the inside and i can see pacquiao being frustrated with that.

if you think about it, if mayweather is on the move early, then later decides to go inside, because against mosley mayweather gave mosley a different look every round. Pacquiao i hate to say it, his only real chance isnt pressure, its not combinations, its not any of that ****,

he needs to hit mayweather shot that he cant get up from, period.

Good post. I feel the same way but am interested to see what Roach come up with.

[Too_Slick]

I didn't say anything on the show because it was Mayweathers time, and I didn't want to take anything away from his impressive victory (just outta respect to the Floyd fans who were in a celebratory mode after the fight).

Pac haters do that after Manny wins, and I didn't want to do the same thing because i feel its b.s. and you should just let fighters have their moment.

wow....this is the first time i see a pacquiao fan and not a *******, props for your respect, if only all other pac fans would act respectfull like you and not go discredit every insignificant flaw the can see in money, ppl apreciate respect like the one u show

[El Jesus]

I actually thought about this for a second and Manny does the smarted thing any fighter can do which is this; If you aren't a good inside fighter don't try to be. Every ref tells fighters that if they engage with their opponent they will let them fight on the inside, but if not they will break it up.

So if you are terrible on the inside, like Manny is, then just hold and wait for the ref to break it up. If your opponent keeps doing it, then he will get points taking away for excessive clinching and holding. Kessler vs Ward is a good example in that because the ref told kessler if he wouldn't try to engage he would have broken it up, but because Kessler tried to fight back, he wasn't gonna penalize Ward for his tactics.

Its less manny being smart, and more that hes fighting guys that cant exploit that weakness, his last 4 opponents have simply chosen to fight manny at his range because they underestimated his speed and got caught with **** they couldnt see.

go back and look. all of those guys, cotto, clottey, de la hoya, hatton all got their asses kicked by trying to go toe to toe and trade and they got hit with **** they couldnt see.

mayweather isnt going to do that, and his inside game is outstanding and a guy like manny whos defense is already suspect, like i said , mayweather could make it into a phonebooth the ref isnt going to break it up if mayweather is countering off the shoulder.

[IMDAZED]

spacing is very important to pacquiao, if you stay outside he has no answer, on the inside i have seen just about 0 from pacquiao that suggest he has a legit inside game.

he has to be at midrange.

i remember in the hatton fight how hatton was going to be all over him and just make him pay and make mayweather submit on the inside, mayweather needed just about 0 space to get off, i couldnt believe it, im dead serious, thats why the hatton fight to me is one of the most impressive because he beat hatton at his own game. the body punching, the combinations,

hatton was supposed to come in stronger since he wasnt cutting weight, which is why i dont buy these retroactive bs excuses about mayweather cherry picking at lightweight.

basically people are saying pac should be all over mayweather, but the problem is that mayweather has the ability to make the fight very ****ing ugly on the inside and i can see pacquiao being frustrated with that.

if you think about it, if mayweather is on the move early, then later decides to go inside, because against mosley mayweather gave mosley a different look every round. Pacquiao i hate to say it, his only real chance isnt pressure, its not combinations, its not any of that ****,

he needs to hit mayweather shot that he cant get up from, period.

This.

And I agree with everything else you said as well. I suspect Floyd will look to get inside and make things very hairy for Pacquiao. On the outside, he will throw the lead right again and again. He wants to fight Pacquiao bad. Always has and studying their styles, it's not hard to figure out why.

[Khalid X]

So Jay in this video is lying when he heard the comments....right?

Let's just dead it. Because I don't like how you came at me with your previous responses. Whether you disagreed or not.

Because, clearly, I'm not making this stuff up.

I have been to a few Pac fights and those Filipino's don't act like that in real life. It's not as serious as you are making it out to be and blacks aren't gonna be head hunting Filipino's over comment they don't know exist.

Truth be told...most blacks think that mainly whites are racist towards them. It wasn't till a few years ago that I found out that alot of Africans, Haitians and Mexicans are just as racist towards blacks as whites. With that said, the average black person doesn't even think filipino's are racist towards them. The thought simply doesn't even cross their mind.

[johnm is...]

I agree with Roach. The only thing that saved Floyd in that 2nd round was Mosley's inability to finish.

Manny is not shot, and would finish the job.

I maintain that a prime Sugar would've finished him in the 2nd round and we wouldn't even be talking about Mayweather right now.

Everyone keeps talking about what a "prime Mosley" would have done to Floyd in round 2.

For one, if Floyd no longer has the legs that he used to have, wouldn't that make Floyd "past prime" also?

Second, is it really fair to say "the Mosley of 8 years ago would have done _______ to the Floyd of today"?


Aren't you kind of just saying.... "A prime Shane Mosley beats a past prime Floyd Mayweather" ?

[El Jesus]

This.

And I agree with everything else you said as well. I suspect Floyd will look to get inside and make things very hairy for Pacquiao. On the outside, he will throw the lead right again and again. He wants to fight Pacquiao bad. Always has and studying their styles, it's not hard to figure out why.

Thats because these cats are watchin knockouts while were sitting here watching boxing