I'm just interested to see the game plan for Manny to get around Floyd's jab. When he pumps that thing he is very accurate. He also measures distance with it nicely. Roach is smart so I'm interested to see what he comes up with.
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Mayweather is just all wrong for Pacquiao. I still believe Pac is his greatest threat at 147 but I wouldn't put money on it. Floyd can play Marquez on the outside better than Marquez can play Marquez. But mark my words when I say that if these two fight, Floyd is going to make it a rough, inside fight. Very rough.Comment
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I say that because the Filipino guys have been highly disrespectful and racist.
If you think Filipino fans are chill about Floyd Mayweather, you are quite wrong. There is a level of vitriol that has become quite ugly.
When I go online, 95% of the racism that I see comes from the Filipino side.
I can spend the rest of the evening posting links to comments on a thousand different websites and Facebook pages.
Bro before you continue let me say this; Internet and real life are two different things. I went to the a few Pac fight and I never once saw a filipino act rowdy are talk **** like you claim.
Maybe they are racist....no one would ever know (being that you can't tell a person by just walking by them) but one thing I do know is that when I went to Dallas for the fight their were Filipinos everywhere with flags you name it. No one was talking **** and there were thousands up thousands there just happy to see a good fight.
Now if the fight was in LA against a black fighter and a Mexican fighter, I could see some fights, but other than that most people talk **** but its in a joking manner.
e.g. my cousin told a group of filipinos that I was from Africa and was rooting for Clottey. All those Filipino's did was boo me and tell me that Pac is the greatest, until I showed them my Pac tee shirt and they started laughing and giving me high fives. I mean if you have ever been to a fight then you know that most of the trash talk is light-hearted and people are just there to see a good fight.Comment
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spacing is very important to pacquiao, if you stay outside he has no answer, on the inside i have seen just about 0 from pacquiao that suggest he has a legit inside game.Mayweather is just all wrong for Pacquiao. I still believe Pac is his greatest threat at 147 but I wouldn't put money on it. Floyd can play Marquez on the outside better than Marquez can play Marquez. But mark my words when I say that if these two fight, Floyd is going to make it a rough, inside fight. Very rough.
he has to be at midrange.
i remember in the hatton fight how hatton was going to be all over him and just make him pay and make mayweather submit on the inside, mayweather needed just about 0 space to get off, i couldnt believe it, im dead serious, thats why the hatton fight to me is one of the most impressive because he beat hatton at his own game. the body punching, the combinations,
hatton was supposed to come in stronger since he wasnt cutting weight, which is why i dont buy these retroactive bs excuses about mayweather cherry picking at lightweight.
basically people are saying pac should be all over mayweather, but the problem is that mayweather has the ability to make the fight very ****ing ugly on the inside and i can see pacquiao being frustrated with that.
if you think about it, if mayweather is on the move early, then later decides to go inside, because against mosley mayweather gave mosley a different look every round. Pacquiao i hate to say it, his only real chance isnt pressure, its not combinations, its not any of that ****,
he needs to hit mayweather shot that he cant get up from, period.Comment
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http://www.790thezone.com/podcast/list.aspx
In a recent interview with 790THEZONE, Freddie Roach said he saw the fight, and thought it was a great fight, however Mayweather "Legs are Gone",
and he is a "pedestrain" at Welterweight.
Noteable Quotes
"If Pacquiao catches him he will finish him."
" His style now is very good for the fans because he didnt run and he came to fight."
"I will probably get into a fight with Roger, because he is so disrespectful,"
"Mayweather is going to talk trash, and Manny will say GOD will decide."
"I predict Roger will be jail, for hitting the girl, but I am not a girl and he will have a tougher time with me."
"We will Knock Mayweather Out."
HE ALSO SAYS HE SPOKE WITH BOB ARUM, AND BOB ARUM TOLD HIM THAT HE IS ON HIS WAY TO THE PHILP. TO TALK TO MANNY ABOUT ACCEPTING THE FIGHT WITH MAYWEATHER.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS?
lmao@ his legs are gone
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Well yea that is cuz Pac is not really a WW. He is getting hit by the big boys now. That is why his face is is a lumped up. He is a small dude. Not a true WW just good enough to compete with elite WW.
And, why forget the Malignaggi fight?Comment
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Yeah Freedie Roach is turnsover his opinion more than the sun and the moon. But what is interesting is the fact that Roach is telling us that he believes Mayweathers "Legs are Gone",and he is a "pedestrain" at Welterweight.i'm happy he said this---and he's supposed to say it, but freddie roach can't fight for manny--- manny has to fight, freddie can talk all he wants, and has been talking for manny---manny has to prove this, not freddie---it seems freddie is more confident than manny himself---i'm telling you---freddie has been making the bold statements, not manny---
but as far as the acutal interview, and you how much i have love for you my brother horus, we could have done without it, you know why? coz freddie roach changes his mind too much---so , you know i'm not faulting your horus, but didn't freddie change his mind on how hard floyd would be----or the drug test cutoff date----and didn't freddie duck shane for manny---now, he's saying floyd's legs are gone---
you know horus---people used to bash floyd on here for downgrading his opponents before his fights----calling him c class fighters and **** like that---then he goes in there and proves it---yet---for the last 4 fights---freddie has basically downgraded manny's opponents and pretty much told us why manny was fighting them, for those reasons--it made me chuckle horus---and not a lot makes me chuckle--
oh, and b4 i forget, i didn't turn dow your invitation to join the mayweather mafia---don't think i did---my computers are shot to ****, and i was gone from this site for a while, and didn't want to join the mafia and not contribute like i wanted to---i still feel like i'm apart of it, even though i didn't officially let you know--you know i always have your back kid---i'm here when you need me---i've been repping floyd nonstop so don't worry---and i have your radio show too soon----lol----i'm sure you're awaiting my input vocally---
anyway, freddie roach is allowed to think this way---it's what happens afterwards that make the difference though---he needs to tell manny to take the test, and stop making up cutoff dates---coz nobody will care about the margarito fight or cotto rematch or foreman fight as much as the mayweather fight---and given manny's history of fighting floyd's leftovers---i dare him to fight shane now---i double dare him---if he does, and doesn't get criticized for it----manny's fans are nothing more than what i've always called them---groupies---
manny has to fight floyd---coz if floyd decides to fight martinez at 160, and beats him, which he will, manny's number 1 p4p reign will end---and it's already ended on different boxing sites already---
manny doesn't have the confidence freddie has---it's been proven---floyd already said manny isn't versatile and is one dimensional, and just a good puncher and he's smaller---he will beat manny, probably easier than jmm, don't be shocked if he stops him---coz he's been stopped before---it won't be a shock if he beats manny----manny in turn, sues floyd and rather fight him in court, than in the ring----
so, freddie can talk all the trash he wants, he's not getting in the ring and getting that ass taxed by floyd---this is what floyd has gone on record and said----he's not worried about what arum and roach says, or the fans----they aren't the fighter---what does manny want---you think roach is going to fight floyd? man please---roach needs to stick to training, arum to promoting--better promoting anyway--he's doing a piss poor job----
floyd wants to see and hear what manny has to say----not freddie---freddie's words are like broken records---manny is ducking floyd, freddie may want to tell manny this, so manny bulids up the confidence to fight floyd--and stop changing his stance all the time and letting his team make choices for him, coz it's making him look like a ****ing sissy the more freddie roach and bobo arum talks for him----tell manny to man up and take that ass whooping like a man---freddie watched the fight, but manny didn't he said----
so freddie is focused on round 2 of the fight---and floyd getting stunned, but not focusing on floyd recovering fast and overpowering shane, who is stronger than manny---and will be outmuscled by floyd, and manny already went on record saying floyd is bigger----
what did freddie not watch the rest of the round and not see floyd look like he came out the stronger fighter? and it showed the rest of the fight---
didn't manny's face look horrible after his fights with cotto and clottey, who basically doesn't have half the skill floyd has and used floyd's techniques against judah, and said he did---and clottey didn't even fight manny, yet, is face looked fresher after the fight---you mean to tell me floyd's legs are gone? roach please----
manny's heart is gone--you can tell it peaked after the cotto fight when he was in talks to fight floyd---all of a sudden manny decided he's rather sue the mayweathers, then fight floyd mayweather jr.....freddie's words don't mean ****----
when and if manny musters up the balls to fight floyd on an even playing field, which really isn't even to begin with, seeing how floyd is so much more skilled than manny, so much more balanced, so much more of a sharper puncher, so much more accurate, meaning his offense is better----defense is much better--look at the compubox statistics between the 2---
floyd mayweather jr is a complete fighter---manny pacquiao is not a complete fighter---that we do know---and when they fight--manny will not only be dominated all around the ring, he will look like he's in his 1st pro fight against an elite champion--basically in over his head--and he will be stopped by round 8----meaning he will be stopped then or earlier---i've said this so many times--manny will get stopped by floyd by the end of the 8th round---stay tuned and mark these words---i won't bbe shocked as it happens either----
REALLY ROACH????
I think Roach is smarter than this, because if he believes that Mayweather will not give Manny Angles, Lateral Movement, and a Straight Right Hand. then he is crazy
Freedie Roach mouth has already wrote checks that Pacquiao ass could not cash... this past december. When Roach said they will accept OST, and then 3 days later he says we will not accept OST.
Or when he said he would need a 10 week training camp for Mayweather and How March 13th was too soon for Pacquiao to fight Mayweather.
So listening to Roach deliver these comments, makes me think ROACH is trying to play mind games with the Mayweathers. Because he knows Mayweather has already got into Pacquiao head, and admitting it, into Roaches Head.
ROACH understands that he needs to counter punch Mayweather mind games because up to this Point in boxing. Mayweather is beating the **** out of Pacquiao and Freddie Roach when it comes to Mental fighting,
I can go on and on about this, but i will stop right here.Last edited by Horus; 05-04-2010, 05:33 PM.Comment
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