Has Manny Pacquiao ever fought anyone with fast handspeed?

[Xyei]

Your right and neither has Floyd in my opinion. Sure Zab was very fast himself but again he was so technically flawed that it didn't make a diffrence in the fight. And while Shane has good handspeed I don't think he's anywhere near as blinding as Pac simply because Pac is so much smaller and his reflexes are so much better than Shane who also happens to be 39.

My opinion is if Floyd and Pac ever meet it will be the first time that both fighter face someone just as skilled and as fast as the other.

Okay, but this is not what this thread is about. This isn't about who fought the better competition or when they have fought someone as skilled as they are. That's a totally different question. Floyd has fought some fighters that are as fast or arguably faster than he is. We are trying to think of people who Manny has fought who can rival him in speed.

Marquez is definitely as skilled as Pac, just in a different way, BTW..

[illmaticfighter]

Your right and neither has Floyd in my opinion. Sure Zab was very fast himself but again he was so technically flawed that it didn't make a diffrence in the fight. And while Shane has good handspeed I don't think he's anywhere near as blinding as Pac simply because Pac is so much smaller and his reflexes are so much better than Shane who also happens to be 39.

My opinion is if Floyd and Pac ever meet it will be the first time that both fighter face someone just as skilled and as fast as the other.

this is the point of this thread.

floyd is not only faster than any fighter manny has fought he is also on the skill level of a barrera some would say he is a better boxer.

barrera just is flat footed while floyd uses his athletic ability.

[Xyei]

And again you observation is based on what? I've based my opinions on Barrera's ability to outbox a blindingly fast Hamed and Marquez's ability to counter a very fast fighter named Pacman. What are you basing your opinions on? What exactly makes Barrera and Marquez slow?

Being able to beat a fighter who is faster than you does not automatically make you as fast as your foe.

[illmaticfighter]

I mean let's look at it from a football stand point just because marvin harrison is ten times the receiver devin hester is doesn't mean he's faster.

[pistol whip]

Judah has fast hands. There's no debating that. Judah had faster hands than every fighter he ever faced. You could argue that Floyd was faster but I think Judah has/had faster hands than Floyd.

I can agree with you to a point but what I want you to understand (Because you seem to be the only person here who isn't just trying to troll me) is that yes Zab had greater handspeed than Marquez and Barrera yes, but that doesn't mean that they had zero handspeed either. It's on obvious sentiment on this board that Pac has never fought anyone with anykind of handspeed because all his past fights happened to be against Hispanic fighters. What i'm trying to point out is that Barrera and Marquez had solid handspeed and exceptional technical ability that made them twice as dangerous as Judah ever could dream to be no matter how fast his hands were. So in otherwords just because Floyd fought a flawed Judah and an old Mosely does not mean he has taken on anyone who was anymore dangerous than the fighters tha Pac fought in the past.

If anything Floyd and Pac have resume's that are almost indentical to each other when it comes to finding adequette challangers.

[pistol whip]

Being able to beat a fighter who is faster than you does not automatically make you as fast as your foe.

And being faster and slicker doesn't autimatically make you're more dangerous. Barrera and Marquez are both more well rounded than Zab and thats my point, speed can be an illusion at times.

Are you really gonna tell me a flawed Judah would be able to go anymore than 6 rounds with a just as fast and much more skilled pacman?

[pistol whip]

I was with you, until this.

I think they are both just as skiled as each other but in diffrent ways. pac is more gifted offensively while floyd is more gifted defensively. They were made to fight each other.

[trk]

Clottey has pretty decent handspeed, at least when it comes to fighting on the inside with short hooks and uppercuts (he isn't very good with the jab though). If he were more aggressive and more willing to let his hands go he could maybe be the top guy at 147 except for Floyd and Pac.

[-Spinal-]

Okay, but this is not what this thread is about. This isn't about who fought the better competition or when they have fought someone as skilled as they are. That's a totally different question. Floyd has fought some fighters that are as fast or arguably faster than he is. We are trying to think of people who Manny has fought who can rival him in speed.

Marquez is definitely as skilled as Pac, just in a different way, BTW..

Thanks for breaking it down like this Ab. I just mentioned a few fighters that were known for their handspeed vs Mayweather but everyone seems to be mentioning the fastest fighters that Pacquiao has fought which is a big big big difference than mentioning which fighters are actually fast in the handspeed category.

It's like Wlad's last 5 opponents, who was known for having fast handspeed? Ibragamov was arguably the fastest of the 5...But does he have fast hands in general? Nope. That's what a lot of posters in this thread are doing...They are mentioning the fighters with the fastest handspeed in Pacquiao's resume, who are not necessarily known as fast handed fighters. Judah and Mosley are known to have fast hands and Floyd just happened to fight them, Corley had decent handspeed when Floyd fought him as well.

[^^Cody^^]

Wat do you mean before we say Judah?

He was one of the fastest fighters boxing has seen.

Thanks you. Say what you want about Judah's heart and discipline. Don't call him slow!! He's far from slow.