Has Manny Pacquiao ever fought anyone with fast handspeed?

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  • V.WEBB
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    #71
    Originally posted by pistol whip
    Again why wouldn't they be as fast? Oh I'm sorry they weren't black and slick no way someone who isn't black and slick be faster even though they fought at weight classes 20 pounds north of what Judah fought at that are known fo having fighters with great handspeed.
    Stop bringing race into the debate my dude and I NEVER mentioned anything about being slick...SMH. I have ONLY debated SPEED, NOTHING MORE. MAB, JMM, and EM were not faster than Zab NOR "just as fast" as you suggested earlier.

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    • PensionKiller
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      #72
      The guys at 106 and above were fast

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      • pistol whip
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        #73
        Originally posted by odogg8121
        Floyd has wins over both...and this sudnt even be about race

        But it is becasue that's often the misconception that *****s tend to overlook.

        Just because you don't look cool and slick while you are fighting doesn't mean you can't have great handspeed.

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        • Hi-Dro
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          #74
          Pac makes his opponents look slow, and like they're fighting under water.

          That's all I'm going to say.

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          • pistol whip
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            #75
            Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
            Stop bringing race into the debate my dude and I NEVER mentioned anything about being slick...SMH. I have ONLY debated SPEED, NOTHING MORE. MAB, JMM, and EM were not faster than Zab NOR "just as fast" as you suggested earlier.

            Ok explain to me why not? I mean something has to make you think they were slower?

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            • Bogler
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              #76
              Originally posted by FightMoney
              I've seen Barrera fight in his prime. Not even for a second did I think he was faster than Shane.

              Marquez has far from elite hand speed
              he wasnt faster than shane prime for prime. but the shane saturday night was slower compared to mab in prime. it was obvious his looping punches were telegraphed.

              and how far would elite hand speed carry you if you are not effective? and can you name me these fighters w/ elite handspeed aside from pac and floyd that they fought that became great?

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              • FightMoney
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                #77


                Still faster than Barrera here if you ask me

                I'm not even talking prime for prime. Prime for prime it's not even comparable...in Mosley v De La Hoya I Mosely was punching faster than Barrera ever dreamed of punching.
                Last edited by FightMoney; 05-04-2010, 12:44 PM.

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                • pistol whip
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by fugu
                  Do you think boxing is a handspeed contest?

                  Zab does indeed have sickly fast hands.
                  Oh I agree Judah has fast hands but he had no real skill when it counted. It was almost a waste of talent.

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                  • Bogler
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by FightMoney
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBOsoIWDgyo

                    Still faster than Barrera here if you ask me
                    wow good example. against the 'really quick' margarito

                    remember pac-diaz? pac was like superman there because of the much slower diaz.

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                    • fugu
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by pistol whip
                      Oh I agree Judah has fast hands but he had no real skill when it counted. It was almost a waste of talent.
                      I agree about that but that wasnt what was debated.

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