Has Manny Pacquiao ever fought anyone with fast handspeed?

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  • pistol whip
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    #61
    Originally posted by -Kevin-
    Lol you can leave right out the front door of this thread with that stuff, I am not even black so that race card will not work here son. I am sorry to disappoint you.
    I'm not saying you're black I'm saying that *****s always elevate black fighters as the faster atleates when in fact it is and always will be an illusion due in part to the slick style that most black fighters use. Pac fought plenty of fighters with great handspeed but as usual since they were Hispanic and used a more upright fighting style most know nothings like you are quick to say "no those guys were slow" even though many of them were outboxing slickster fighters themselves. A great example was Hamed vs Barrera! Barrera completely befuddled Hamed by beating him to the punch, outboxing Hamed, and used great defensive skill to shut down a younger and supposiably faster opponent. Slow fighters just don't outbox a guy like Hamed unless they have great handspeed themselves.

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    • V.WEBB
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      #62
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      But they were just as fast.
      Are you kidding me dude?

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      • FightMoney
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        #63
        Originally posted by PH|L
        Barrera had elite handspeed. No doubt.

        Faster than Mosley had last weekend. Don't forget that by nature, smaller fighters are faster than bigger ones anyways. Alot of these smaller guys that Pac was fighting years ago had fast hands.
        Shane's hand speed > Barrera's hand speed

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        • Bogler
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          #64
          Originally posted by FightMoney
          Shane's hand speed > Barrera's hand speed
          yeah 5-10yrs ago shane was fast. saturday night he looked eveidently slower than the mexican trio if you didnt see that you're totally biased or havent watched mab's prime.

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          • PittyPat
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            #65
            Marquez, I guess. His fast little hands were confusing the hell out of Pacquiao in both fights, although the latter had wisened up significantly by the time of the rematch.

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            • JOM'S
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              #66
              Rustico Torreocampo has pretty fast handspeed ....

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              • pistol whip
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                #67
                Originally posted by COACH-WEBB
                Are you kidding me dude?

                Again why wouldn't they be as fast? Oh I'm sorry they weren't black and slick no way someone who isn't black and slick be faster even though they fought at weight classes 20 pounds north of what Judah fought at that are known for having fighters with great handspeed.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by pistol whip
                  And you made it a point to overexagerrate it like I knew a ***** would. *** Emmanual Augustas has fast hands but do you really want to compare him to fighters like Morales, Cotto, barrera, De La Hoya just because he has a "slick" style? No!!!


                  Again what this really is about is *****s neverending crusade to somehow elevate Floyds wins against "black" fighters over Pac's wins over "Hispanic" fighters.

                  As if somehow Black fighters are anymore dominent than Hispanic fighters simply becasue they are black.
                  Floyd has wins over both...and this sudnt even be about race

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                  • fugu
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by pistol whip
                    When has Floyd fought anyone with great handspeed himself? Other than a 39 year old mosley. And before you say Judah how much hand speed does one have when they lose to a plodding journeymen named Baldomir.
                    Do you think boxing is a handspeed contest?

                    Zab does indeed have sickly fast hands.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Bogler
                      yeah 5-10yrs ago shane was fast. saturday night he looked eveidently slower than the mexican trio if you didnt see that you're totally biased or havent watched mab's prime.
                      I've seen Barrera fight in his prime. Not even for a second did I think he was faster than Shane.

                      Marquez has far from elite hand speed

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