How would a prime EVANDER HOLYFIELD do today?

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  • PACK
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    #51
    So we are just pretending like Holyfield didnt take roids right? I heard he would inject between rounds even. Even with his rampant roidage, vitali would destroy him. he would rip his heart out and end his career.

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    • Steelhammer2011
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      #52
      Boxingwizard is an idiot and a reputed Klitschko hater. He made tons of threads and posts saying Chambers would beat Wlad and look what happened. Wlad completely dominated every round and brutally KO'd his hero Chambers.

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      • geribeetus
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        #53
        he'd have the same problems with wlad he had against lennox. not as badly if he were younger though. he could outwork wlad but he'd take some damage in the process. prime evander was extremely fast on his feet. that's his way to win. you've got to outhustle the klitschkos. i don't think the people who say they can be outclassed have watched them enough.

        i think he struggles a lot more with vitali's workrate and unorthodox style.


        imo he splits a series with both brothers. loses the first and wins the second. vitali has a better chance at winning the 2nd than wlad.

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        • Steelhammer2011
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          #54
          Originally posted by Trim0
          If the Klit bros weren't around, he would be champ.
          As it stands, I doubt he would have been able to beat Wlad.
          Wlad has simply grown into an unbeatable HW. Too smart, too strong, too big for Holy****.
          Originally posted by Trim0
          He's extremely overrated. He rarely dominated his opponent, and all of his important wins are too narrow, while Klit dominates his opponents.
          He beat Tyson by headbutting him to death, that's the high point of his career.
          Overrated IMO.
          Originally posted by Trim0
          Ruiz has fought HOFers as well, I guess he should be the one cleaning up the division. A division which by the way, is credit to Wlad for making it look so uncompetitive.

          It's easier said than done, cleaning up the HW division at any given time is a huge task, Wlad has obviously mastered this, something which Holy never did.
          Originally posted by Trim0
          Holy is just typical American hype. Everyone loves his "warrior" persona and style of boxing, but the harsh reality is that he was never that good. Certainly never good enough to dominate the HW division the way Wlad is doing now.

          He was tough, sure, but with the right tactics he could have been neutralized with relative ease. Hell, James Toney mopped the floor with him, and Toney's a former middleweight FFS. The quality is just not there, simple.
          Originally posted by Trim0
          At cruiserweight he was a complete beast, I agree.
          But it's a different story at HW. The fact that Byrd and Ruiz outboxed him should tell you the story more or less.
          Originally posted by Trim0
          Have you seen Wlad fight? It's not just the 1-2. It's the power, the relentless pressure and the fact that he's basically evolved under Manny. His defense is nearly flawless and he barely gets hit. Lewis kept him at bay, I think it's safe to say that Wlad has the ability to do the same.

          The only way Wlad could lose is if his chin suddenly lets him down, there's noway Holy was skilled enough to outpoint him. Holy was never a big puncher anyway, so I'll stick to my theory, but it's boxing so anything can happen.
          You're a good poster.

          Green K sent.

          Prime 4 Prime...Either Klitschko beats Holyfield.
          Last edited by Steelhammer2011; 05-03-2010, 11:02 PM.

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          • Malius
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            #55
            Originally posted by iÐoL
            Wlad's jab looks amazing against these B level fighters.

            Wlad has never and never will fight someone as good as Holyfield.
            There are no HW's around that are as good as Holyfield so I think that point is mute.

            Where are the Haye fanboys saying Haye would knock him out lol.

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            • D-MiZe
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              #56
              Originally posted by Malius
              There are no HW's around that are as good as Holyfield so I think that point is mute.

              Where are the Haye fanboys saying Haye would knock him out lol.
              I really hope Haye does KO him.

              The drama on NSB would be fucking amazing.

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              • Boxingwizard
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                #57
                Originally posted by Steelhammer2010
                Boxingwizard is an idiot and a reputed Klitschko hater. He made tons of threads and posts saying Chambers would beat Wlad and look what happened. Wlad completely dominated every round and brutally KO'd his hero Chambers.
                You're the idiot here, you're the one who favors boxers simply because their from Eastern Euro, even if they suck. I'll admit I'm not a fan of the Klitschko brothers, but it's not because they are Ukrainian.

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                • trk
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                  #58
                  He could be undisputed champ at cruiserweight. He could win and alphabet title at Heavyweight. He would be more competitive with the Klitschkos than anyone else has been for the last few years, but I don't think he would be able to beat them.

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                  • Buckfever
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                    #59
                    He would rule at Cruiserweight. And would do extremely well at heavyweight given how weak the division is today.

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                    • geribeetus
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                      #60
                      i agree with the guys mentioning him fighting at cruiserweight. at hw he'd be even smaller by comparison today than he was then.

                      but he'd undoubtedly terrorize cruiserweight.

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