How would a prime EVANDER HOLYFIELD do today?

[Boxingwizard]

Holy is just typical American hype. Everyone loves his "warrior" persona and style of boxing, but the harsh reality is that he was never that good. Certainly never good enough to dominate the HW division the way Wlad is doing now.

He was tough, sure, but with the right tactics he could have been neutralized with relative ease. Hell, James Toney mopped the floor with him, and Toney's a former middleweight FFS. The quality is just not there, simple.

lol American hype? He went to war with a prime Rid**** Bowe, and the only reason why Bowe was able to win is because he was a tall good inside fighter. Wladimir can't fight on the inside, and unlike most boxers today Evander can easily get past that jab. Check out his fights in cruiserweight, the guy was a beast.

[Boxingwizard]

Ah, the mighty Buster Douglas. Impressive!

[Trim0]

lol American hype? He went to war with a prime Rid**** Bowe, and the only reason why Bowe was able to win is because he was a tall good inside fighter. Wladimir can't fight on the inside, and unlike most boxers today Evander can easily get past that jab. Check out his fights in cruiserweight, the guy was a beast.

At cruiserweight he was a complete beast, I agree.
But it's a different story at HW. The fact that Byrd and Ruiz outboxed him should tell you the story more or less.

Bowe was great, but it was his own limitations that forced him to fight Holy on the inside. He should have fought Holy the way Lewis did, keep him at a distance and rack up the points. The Holy-Bowe fights were great entertainment at the expense of wrong tactics.

[D-MiZe]

Steel, you realise no one actually listens to you?

[Boxingwizard]

At cruiserweight he was a complete beast, I agree.
But it's a different story at HW. The fact that Byrd and Ruiz outboxed him should tell you the story more or less.

Bowe was great, but it was his own limitations that forced him to fight Holy on the inside. He should have fought Holy the way Lewis did, keep him at a distance and rack up the points. The Holy-Bowe fights were great entertainment at the expense of wrong tactics.

Holyfield was 40 YEARS old when he fought Byrd and Ruiz. Holyfield had an extensive amateur background, his amateur record consist of 160 wins and 14 losses, that's almost 200 fights.

Holyfield in his prime was faster then Wladimir. Remember in the 10th round when Bowe was landing bombs on Holyfield and still couldn't knock him out? That's how tough his chin is.

No way Wladimir can beat Holyfield simply throwing the 1, 2 Holyfield in his prime was too skilled for that.

[Trim0]

Holyfield was 40 YEARS old when he fought Byrd and Ruiz. Holyfield had an extensive amateur background, his amateur record consist of 160 wins and 14 losses, that's almost 200 fights.

Holyfield in his prime was faster then Wladimir. Remember in the 10th round when Bowe was landing bombs on Holyfield and still couldn't knock him out? That's how tough his chin is.

No way Wladimir can beat Holyfield simply throwing the 1, 2 Holyfield in his prime was too skilled for that.

Have you seen Wlad fight? It's not just the 1-2. It's the power, the relentless pressure and the fact that he's basically evolved under Manny. His defense is nearly flawless and he barely gets hit. Lewis kept him at bay, I think it's safe to say that Wlad has the ability to do the same.

The only way Wlad could lose is if his chin suddenly lets him down, there's noway Holy was skilled enough to outpoint him. Holy was never a big puncher anyway, so I'll stick to my theory, but it's boxing so anything can happen.

[beez721]

Holyfield was 40 YEARS old when he fought Byrd and Ruiz. Holyfield had an extensive amateur background, his amateur record consist of 160 wins and 14 losses, that's almost 200 fights.

Holyfield in his prime was faster then Wladimir. Remember in the 10th round when Bowe was landing bombs on Holyfield and still couldn't knock him out? That's how tough his chin is.

No way Wladimir can beat Holyfield simply throwing the 1, 2 Holyfield in his prime was too skilled for that.

your forgetting about wlads left hook

[Boxingwizard]

your forgetting about wlads left hook

Wladimir just randomly throws it, what is that suppose to do to Evadner? If Lamont Brewster can trouble Wladimir, then Evander will dish out that much punishment X2.

You take away Wladimir's jab, right hand....and left-hook, what can he do? Nothing. A prime Evander gets past Wladimir's jab easily.

[Brockton Lip]

Wlad would be his toughest fight but I'd pick Holyfield to be the undisputed champ.

[Boxingwizard]

Have you seen Wlad fight? It's not just the 1-2. It's the power, the relentless pressure and the fact that he's basically evolved under Manny. His defense is nearly flawless and he barely gets hit. Lewis kept him at bay, I think it's safe to say that Wlad has the ability to do the same.

The only way Wlad could lose is if his chin suddenly lets him down, there's noway Holy was skilled enough to outpoint him. Holy was never a big puncher anyway, so I'll stick to my theory, but it's boxing so anything can happen.

Holyfield was extremely skilled back in his prime, and he's bigger then the stats will indicate, much bigger then Chambers and Ibragimov for sure.

There is no such thing as an impenetrable defense, all Steward did was teach Wladimir how to use his height and reach to the fullest. But what happens when Wladimir can't defeat his opponents by simply using the jab, right hand, and left hook?