Why is it a big deal that Floyd beat Shane?

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  • pac123
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    #11
    it's hard to consider it a huge win for Mayweather 'cos of
    how horrible Mosley looked. His age and almost a year and
    half layoff may have been factors.

    Mayweather was great, but you can't deny that Mosley looked
    like ****. even when he was winning in the first 2 rounds, he
    didn't look good. the guy was jittery and gasping for air during
    the 2nd round and on.

    This is only a big win to the Mayweather fans because he hasn't
    been this offensive and aggressive in a long time. What's weird
    is that while he looked great doing that, he still didn't throw
    combinations at all. What I saw was just an aggressive pot
    shooting, but it was great to watch nonetheless cos it's not
    his usual boring style.

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    • guru
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      #12
      floyd was a HUGE favorite to win this fight. the poll on this forum had ppl picking pbf by 75%!!! the betting line at bodog was mosely +450.

      great win for floyd, but he was supposed to win and MOST ppl expected it

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      • indystress
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        #13
        thats what ive been saying...other than his win over margarito, mosley havent really impressed or done anything in his last several fights that makes him the undisputed welterweight king, and the fact that he had an almost 2 yr layoff at his age...since margarito was banned from boxing, the fight against margarito shouldve been changed as a non title fight with the belt stripped from margarito.

        as for the other fight post mayweather retirement, you have to question mayweathers win over an overweight marquez due to his needing to move up 2 weight classes to fight mayweather. and to move up 2 weight classes at marquez's age was another disadvantage.

        so with all this said, mayweathers two wins post retirement is highly exagerated...i'll take pacs 2 win over two younger top 5 welterweigjht cotto and clottey over mayweaters 2 win over close to 40 yr old marquez and mosley...and the fact the cotto beat mosley, the same cotto that got knocked down twice and then TKOd by pac...and add the fact that pac beat common opponant hatton much quicker than mayweather did (im not including delahoya because he had to come down in weight, and im not including marquez cuz he had to go up 2 weight classes)

        and to those who said pac beat a never the same cotto after margarito beat him up...heres one for you...mosley was never the same after he got drilled twice by vernon forrest and twice by winky wright...thats why after those 4 fights and mosleys age and close to 2 yr layoff, mosley was never the same as well...

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        • indystress
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          #14
          pacs two wins over cotto and clottey is much more impressive considering pac moved up in weight to fight two naturally bigger guys that are younger and are top 5 welterweight...and mayweather fought a guy that is almost 40 himself and had to move up 2 weight classes to fight him...and the other being almost 40yrs old...and other than beating margarito, havent done anything impressive in years...why people dont get that is beyond me
          Last edited by indystress; 05-03-2010, 09:06 AM.

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          • Kobe Bryant
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            #15
            It's funny to see the win being ****ted on. What else could he do? Shane is the top guy at welterweight. He would beat probably Berto, Clottey, already destroyed Margarito, and would in my eyes be able to beat Cotto in a rematch. He also beat Collazo. So that's pretty much all of the top welters in the division that Shane could very well beat and if not be in a highly competitive bout.

            There was no doubt that he's a top 2 welterweight. People said they wanted to see him against a bigger stronger opponent. He was in there with Shane and completely outclassed Shane. He made him look like a C level fighter and took his heart out of the fight. Yes Shane is old and yes Cotto beat him but that fight was pretty close. This fight was not it was a dominant win.

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            • indystress
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              #16
              Originally posted by Kobe Bryant
              It's funny to see the win being ****ted on. What else could he do? Shane is the top guy at welterweight. He would beat probably Berto, Clottey, already destroyed Margarito, and would in my eyes be able to beat Cotto in a rematch. He also beat Collazo. So that's pretty much all of the top welters in the division that Shane could very well beat and if not be in a highly competitive bout.

              There was no doubt that he's a top 2 welterweight. People said they wanted to see him against a bigger stronger opponent. He was in there with Shane and completely outclassed Shane. He made him look like a C level fighter and took his heart out of the fight. Yes Shane is old and yes Cotto beat him but that fight was pretty close. This fight was not it was a dominant win.
              thats true, but considering cotto beat mosley and the fact that pac whooped cotto BIG TIME after cotto beat mosley...and the fact the pac destroyed hatton while mayweather needed almost 12 rounds to finish off hatton...makes me wonder why floyd fans think pac would be an easy fight is beyond me. mayweather may have made mosley like a c fighter, but pac has made cotto and clottey look like c fighters as well...PAC put a big whooping on cotto and clottey more than did mayweather to mosley and marquez, and both being close to 40 yrs old to boot
              Last edited by indystress; 05-03-2010, 09:23 AM.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Kobe Bryant
                It's funny to see the win being ****ted on. What else could he do? Shane is the top guy at welterweight. He would beat probably Berto, Clottey, already destroyed Margarito, and would in my eyes be able to beat Cotto in a rematch. He also beat Collazo. So that's pretty much all of the top welters in the division that Shane could very well beat and if not be in a highly competitive bout.

                There was no doubt that he's a top 2 welterweight. People said they wanted to see him against a bigger stronger opponent. He was in there with Shane and completely outclassed Shane. He made him look like a C level fighter and took his heart out of the fight. Yes Shane is old and yes Cotto beat him but that fight was pretty close. This fight was not it was a dominant win.
                BTW, im not discreditng mayweathers win, im just saying its being over exagerated...like the best thing since sliced bread
                Last edited by indystress; 05-03-2010, 09:25 AM.

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                • Clyde Barrow
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                  #18
                  The fight was for the top spot at WW. A lot of people, including me, didn't think PBF would ever fight Shane. He did, he almost got KO'd early, and he rallied to shut him out almost. It was a big win for PBF.

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                  • indystress
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Clyde Barrow
                    The fight was for the top spot at WW. A lot of people, including me, didn't think PBF would ever fight Shane. He did, he almost got KO'd early, and he rallied to shut him out almost. It was a big win for PBF.
                    according to the RING MAGAZINE rankings prior to the mosley/mayweather fight, pac held the top spot at welterweight...its only for the belt that mosley won from margarito that shouldve been amended as a non title fight since margarito was suspended

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                    • indystress
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                      #20
                      and how does mosley maintain a high ranking in the P4P and welterweight when he lost to cotto and needed a KO in the final round to cement a garanteed win over mayorga? then a win over a boxer who won the belt from cotto and with suspect wins due to plaster loaded gloves...all those elements to me does not make for such high rankings and praise for mosley

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