Mayweather and Martinez: Whos styles has the advantage?

[jrosales13]

Martinez is almost 6ft. tall. Pavlik and Williams are 6'2" or taller, so he might look small, but I think people are underestimating his size. He's a big JMW, and a legit MW, or better yet he could become one after a while. That said, Floyd would still have speed and movement in a MW fight, because I think he would shed weight after the weigh in, like the Oscar fight. All said and done, Floyd would be 152-ish, and Martinez would be in the mid 160's. Not an insurmountable advantage.

I doubt he will have the speed and movement in MW fight. even at JMW he didn't have the speed and movement he had at WW against Oscar. He still will be fast but at MW Sergio would be faster. And, he will not buckle Sergio like he did Oscar.

[F l i c k e r]

Mayweather's style has the advantage still.


Martinez likes to dance around but he does alot of wasted movement for his slick tendencies. Floyd wastes no movement while being very difficult to hit. Which is why I still give the advantage to Mayweather.


If it's at 154, I would still lean towards Mayweather to win by UD. Even with all of Martinez's extra size and power, I believe we would see another DLH type performance from Floyd but Martinez would spend alot more time doing the slick boxer thing rather than attacking.

At 160, I don't give Floyd much of a chance, if he can even make that weight.

[jrosales13]

I don't think it's appreciated that Floyd was 148 when he fought a 166 pound Oscar.

I am sorry I don't care what the weight-in. That version of Oscar is no where near the level of Martinez. Not even close.

Martinez would dominated that version of Oscar in every way shape and form. He would of even made Quit in the stool like Pac did.

I have said this plenty of times. Oscar is the most overrated fighters in the last 10 years.

Everybody talks about his damn left hook. But, his left hook was only evident in two fights in 10 years.

[DR.ORGYY]

i think martinez would beat mayweather......

[Motofan]

Nobody on the planet has a style advantage over Floyd.

[-GDS-]

I doubt he will have the speed and movement in MW fight. even at JMW he didn't have the speed and movement he had at WW against Oscar. He still will be fast but at MW Sergio would be faster. And, he will not buckle Sergio like he did Oscar.

I think Floyd will fight in the low 150's in a pure MW fight. Sergio would have about a 15 to 20 pound advantage. For the Record, Oscar had a 18 pound advantage fight night. Now I'm not saying Oscar= Sergio, but Floyd wouldn't be at a insurmountable disadvantage. Especially since he seems stonger now, and would be able to get Sergio's respect to some degree. I wouldn't recommend Floyd fight Pavlik or especially Williams at 160, but I think Floyd could really pull off a win over Martinez at 160. Martinez could win also, but Floyd would have a good shot.

[jrosales13]

I think Floyd will fight in the low 150's in a pure MW fight. Sergio would have about a 15 to 20 pound advantage. For the Record, Oscar had a 18 pound advantage fight night. Now I'm not saying Oscar= Sergio, but Floyd wouldn't be at a insurmountable disadvantage. Especially since he seems stonger now, and would be able to get Sergio's respect to some degree. I wouldn't recommend Floyd fight Pavlik or especially Williams at 160, but I think Floyd could really pull off a win over Martinez at 160. Martinez could win also, but Floyd would have a good shot.

We would just have to agree to disagree. Nice debating with you....

[Kalion]

To fight Martinez at MW he would have to put 9lbs more than what he weigh-in against Shane.

9lbs is a lot, 9lbs can take away speed, agility, ability, movement.

You think Floyd will be effective at 155 as he is at 147?

Again does weight-class not matter anymore?

He is not fighting an old Oscar, Martinez is a way better fighter than that version of Oscar in every way.

Shane as he great as he is. That version of Shane at WW is not as good as the MW version of Martinez. Sergio has legs Shane does not. Not taking nothing away from Floyd performance he deserves full credit. But, Martinez MW> Shane WW.

Floyd as much power as he has would not be able to hurt Martinez. Sergio would not get discouraged.

Sergio stamina issues are really non unless he is fighting somebody who has the work rate of Paul Williams. Floyd doesn't have that work rate.

At MW Sergio would be faster and as strong as Floyd is he would not be stronger than Martinez at MW.

And, Martinez has the southpaw style to boot. And, the size in his favor and he has skills the man has talent and he has really good footwork...

Ok I get it you guys think Floyd is the greatest and I get it you guys are really high of that victory. So I know is going to be hard for you guys to think objectively right now.

If the fight was at 154 I could see you guys point of view. But, the fight more than likely be at MW. And, Floyd would have to weigh-in at least 154.1

Unless he pulls a Ray Leonard and fights for the JMW and MW title at 154 and then he could weigh-in at 147.1

You make great points.

Just as in any fight, each fighter has his share of the advantages disadvantages.

But in my opinion Martinezs Advantages do not out weigh the disadvantages he will face fighting Floyd. I would have said this 6 months ago.

If this was two ordianry fighters then the size advantage might be to much, but Im not crazy by saying that Floyds has the physical and clearly the technical skills to carry out what you guys seem to think is unthinkable.


Just as much bigger Martinez is than Floyd, Floyd is that much and more smarter, expierenced and versatile.

Thats my take, you have yours. The End.

[Silencers]

Mayweather basically has the style advantage over anyone he faces, that includes Martinez. There are quite a few intangibles involved in a Mayweather-Martinez fight that makes the fight interesting though.

[-GDS-]

We would just have to agree to disagree. Nice debating with you....

All said and done, a 160 fight might just be too much for Floyd, especially considering he would have to weigh in over 154 for it to be sanctioned. I would personally advise Floyd to try and take that fight at a catch weight from 155 to 160. Would be very interesting to know what Floyd really was for the Mosley fight. It would be interesting to see if he could fight effectively at 152/3. For the record Jro, you would take Floyd vs Pavlik at 160?