Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” – Mosley-Mayweather: The Last Word

[switchsouthpaw]

See, this is the thing that gets me. How can Manny Pacquiao's
resume be more impressive than Floyd's when 1, Floyd dominated
130 and Manny didn't. Floyd fought dangerous and more guys
at 135 and Pac didn't. Pac fought Oscar and Hatton after Floyd
beat them and now Floyd fought Mosley (The #1 WW) and dominated
him. How is Pac resume better? Because he fought Morales, Barrera
and got some gifts from the judges with Marquez AND fought Cotto
at 145 instead of 147? How is Pac's resume better? I would say
some of Pac's performances are more exciting than Floyd's but that's
about it. Floyd being a champ UNDEFEATED for 10 YEARS alone is
a bigger achievement. I like Pac but his fans make me not like him
because through everything all most do is Cosign everything he does
and not take the good with the bad. But you know what? I'm not
going to blame Pac for everyone else's actions or words. I like
watching him fight and will continue to do so AND hopefully Floyd
is next.

I could care less about where Manny ranks either ahead of or behind, before the proverbial ******* label gets thrown about.

Mayweathers' accomplishments are judged against fights that didn't materialize for whatever reason, whether fair or not, he shoulders a lot of the blame for that perception. Mosley was his first step towards creating a new perception and hopefully he continues on that path, which means entertaining fights against someone ranked atop their respective divisions, like a PWill or Martinez.

A great majority of Floyds' fans have a take it or leave it approach with respect to the criticism that Floyd receives, your accomplishments will always be judged against other intangibles and that becomes the measuring stick, the litmus test...it is what it is.

[joey4pacman]

After last Saturday's fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. & Shane Mosley .... Floyd Jr. should be the Pound for Pound King & also the Boxer of the Decade .... Pound for Pound King of BIG MOUTHS & Boxer with the Biggest Mouth of the Decade .... .... FIGHT MANNY PACQUIAO FLOYD JR .... Last Saturday's fight only proved 2 things, either Floyd Jr. fights smaller guys or senior citizens .... nothing more nothing less .... .... BORING .... ....

[switchsouthpaw]

Shane' s team knew the key to the fight was a strong jab. Sometimes its hard to teach an old dog a new trick. I thought Shane had a shot but only by KO. I could not see him beating Mayweather on a decision because if he could beat him by decision that means he should be able to get him out of there. 5 years ago it would have been somewhat different being that Shane would have been younger and faster. I was so surprised about his stamina but like the commentators said maybe he overtrained getting ready for Berto. Regardless his only shot would have been by KO.
I was one of those guys who criticized Floyd for his opposition and I am glad he stepped up. I have been wanting him to fight Shane for years along with a couple other guys.
Margarito would have gotten KO'd now that he knows he doesn't have loaded gloves, Cotto is ruined by Margarito, Vernon taken out by a piece of S**T here in Atlanta.
In my opinion Floyd doesn't have to fight another person to gain my respect. Yep Shane was 38 but hey he was on my list for Floyd to fight. Shane needs to retire because he is 38, nothing to prove and gains nothing by fighting these younger guys except money unless he gets Pac. Beating Pac can't erase sub-par performance against Mayweather and based on his lack of a "decent" jab, he will never beat Mayeather.
Mayweather is the undisputed best active boxer.

Agreed 100%

[GRUSTLER]

After last Saturday's fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. & Shane Mosley .... Floyd Jr. should be the Pound for Pound King & also the Boxer of the Decade .... Pound for Pound King of BIG MOUTHS & Boxer with the Biggest Mouth of the Decade .... .... FIGHT MANNY PACQUIAO FLOYD JR .... Last Saturday's fight only proved 2 things, either Floyd Jr. fights smaller guys or senior citizens .... nothing more nothing less .... .... BORING .... ....

Didn't Manny just say that he was smaller than Floyd
in an article yesterday? So if floyd beats Pac, will you
say the same thing?

[GRUSTLER]

I could care less about where Manny ranks either ahead of or behind, before the proverbial ******* label gets thrown about.

Mayweathers' accomplishments are judged against fights that didn't materialize for whatever reason, whether fair or not, he shoulders a lot of the blame for that perception. Mosley was his first step towards creating a new perception and hopefully he continues on that path, which means entertaining fights against someone ranked atop their respective divisions, like a PWill or Martinez.

A great majority of Floyds' fans have a take it or leave it approach with respect to the criticism that Floyd receives, your accomplishments will always be judged against other intangibles and that becomes the measuring stick, the litmus test...it is what it is.

That still doesn't take away the fact that Pac resume is not
more impressive than Floyd's. Alot of fights don't get made,
so should every fighter get held accountable? According to
all the facts I have posted on here throughout my time of
posting on Boxingscene is that Floyd tried to make fights
with a lot of the fighters people say he ducked. I can prove
that BUT then most people won't believe it because they
want to believe that Floyd ducked them fighters. So like
you said...... It is, what it is.

[switchsouthpaw]

That still doesn't take away the fact that Pac resume is not
more impressive than Floyd's. Alot of fights don't get made,
so should every fighter get held accountable? According to
all the facts I have posted on here throughout my time of
posting on Boxingscene is that Floyd tried to make fights
with a lot of the fighters people say he ducked. I can prove
that BUT then most people won't believe it because they
want to believe that Floyd ducked them fighters. So like
you said...... It is, what it is.

As I said before, it is what it is. There is an article that was just posted on boxingscene a few moments ago where the journalist posed some interesting questions--again I don't care about Manny no need to be reflexive with the responses, I didn't bring him up once.

I've seen what you have described as proof or evidence to support your argument, none of it is or was definitive, a lot of it is hearsay from different camps, with quotes attributed to promoters or youtube videos of fighters calling out other fighters-- which is common--what's not common is actually signing the contract and forcing the fight to happen especially if you have the capital to do so, and Mayweather had and continues to have capital. Either way Saturday must serve as the beginning, with respect to forging new perceptions.

[trainhard_187]

Floyds great in his own right but that isnt gonna change the fact that Pacmans 7 time world champion, Fighter of the decade, multiple Fighter of the Year Awards and has his own Nike Endorsement..

Floyds sponsored by Reebok, didnt know people still wear that ****..

[trainer]

I beg to differ. I believe that Hopkins is the best active fighter. Defended the middleweight crown 20 times until they stole it from him against Taylor. Then he goes up and fights a pound for pound best Joe Calzaghe and loses by split decision and goes up to light heavyweight and beats Tarver. Floyd is really a good fighter and there is no one at welterweight who can give him trouble except for Paul Williams. He can consider himself great though when he fights and beats Martinez and defends the title 20 times like Bernard. Or fight guys with real punching power and strength like Ali did. Just look at Floyds record and check out Sugar Ray Robinsons. No comparison. He will beat pacman though even if he lets pacman use his steroids. They will always remember Duran, Ray Robinson, Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, Cesar Chavez, Monzon but they'll remember Floyd like they do Whitaker. Just a footnote. Floyd beat a 38 year old fighter who had not fought in 15 months. Before that a blown up lightweight. Give me a break.

[jbpanama]

by David P. Greisman - To hear Floyd Mayweather Jr. is to listen to a man addicted to the tenor of his voice, a man who talks with a confident tone but whose caricatural hubris suggests he is compensating for some shortcoming.

His swagger inflates his standing: “I truly believe I’m the best,” he says. “I know I’m the best. Someone could say, ‘Oh, he said he’s better than Muhammad Ali.’ Yep. I’m better than Muhammad Ali. Sugar Ray Robinson? Yep. I’m better than Sugar Ray Robinson. I would never say there’s another fighter better than me. Absolutely not.”

He insolently insults his opponents. There were the personal barbs about Shane Mosley’s hairstyle (“He got a Jheri curl, man. Come on, man, it’s 2010.”), his face (“Don’t talk bad about Shane because he got a nose job.”), his past use of performance-enhancing drugs (“Tell Shane to stop taking them steroids.”). And then there were the physical taunts: “Vernon Forrest f**ked you up. Winky Wright f**ked you up. Miguel Cotto f**ked you up. Money Mayweather, I’ma f**k you up some more.” [Click Here To Read More]

BOY wants to change the RULES to
LEVEL the PLAYING FIELD!!!

If Boy's the greatest of all time,
What is he AFRAID of...?????

What GREAT FIGHTER ever PUNKED OUT,
with such NONSENSE???
ANS: BOY's afraid to get his ass KICKED!!!

The NEVADA COMMISSION has the subject on
their agenda, in a couple weeks. BOY should
present his SCIENCE to the NAC, and let them
can rule for or against!!!

TESTING AFTER the fight, not good enough???
LOOK for BOY will continue to PUNK OUT, as
He Can't LEVEL the PLAYING FIELD, cause
He KNOWS Pac has him OUT CLASSED!!!

[GRUSTLER]

I beg to differ. I believe that Hopkins is the best active fighter. Defended the middleweight crown 20 times until they stole it from him against Taylor. Then he goes up and fights a pound for pound best Joe Calzaghe and loses by split decision and goes up to light heavyweight and beats Tarver. Floyd is really a good fighter and there is no one at welterweight who can give him trouble except for Paul Williams. He can consider himself great though when he fights and beats Martinez and defends the title 20 times like Bernard. Or fight guys with real punching power and strength like Ali did. Just look at Floyds record and check out Sugar Ray Robinsons. No comparison. He will beat pacman though even if he lets pacman use his steroids. They will always remember Duran, Ray Robinson, Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, Cesar Chavez, Monzon but they'll remember Floyd like they do Whitaker. Just a footnote. Floyd beat a 38 year old fighter who had not fought in 15 months. Before that a blown up lightweight. Give me a break.

Not buying it. I do agree that Floyd should fight more
against dangerous guys. Mosley showed how Floyd can fare
against adversity. His accomplishments shouldn't be overlooked.
He is a great fighter that already did things that no other fighter
has done. What Floyd has done to me is more imppresive
than Pacquiao but both are great in their own right.