Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” – Mosley-Mayweather: The Last Word

[check hook]

I read people saying that Mosley stopped punching or
became gun shy? It was the same with Oscar with his
jab. The reason why both men stop throwing punches
was because they couldn't figure out or hit Floyd.

Shane was in great shape and even at his age still managed
to dismantle Margarito before. The reason Shane looked so
bad was because Floyd made him look that way. I think
Floyd would have beat Shane even back then because
Shane has always fought the same fight and Floyd was
hungrier and more aggressive in his come up days.
I just feel and think that Floyd has Mosley number period.

tend to agree with most of this........Shane can be outboxed and Floyd is a master boxer.....even at 35 if Shane didn't hit him with something huge he would have likely lost a decision.

People always talk about fighters work rate and punch output or power when they are about to face Floyd......


Well all i have to say is that no fighter will have their usual work rate against floyd......floyd makes you payu for opening up.......and again...power is useless if you can't hit the target (see Martinez vs Pavlik for further recent vindication on that one)

[switchsouthpaw]

Shane was in great shape and even at his age still managed
to dismantle Margarito before. The reason Shane looked so
bad was because Floyd made him look that way. I think
Floyd would have beat Shane even back then because
Shane has always fought the same fight and Floyd was
hungrier and more aggressive in his come up days.
I just feel and think that Floyd has Mosley number period.

Margarito can't be used as a measuring stick, since he displays little to no movement and is easy to find. Welterweights, especially those of Mosley's caliber are dependent on combination punching and speed, at 38 and especially in the past few years and I've stated this prior to the fight, the only thing consistent about Mosley has been his inconsistency, that being said I was impressed with Mayweather showing he had some dog in him, which is what has always been missing for me.

He showed an attribute that all the great ones possess, the ability to man up when that kitchen gets hot and it was impressive. He is the best talent of the past 15-20 years, ATG....no yet, a few more wins like this then who knows. I am however convinced that a younger Mosley makes this fight waaaay more competitive, eventually losing but it would have been more competitive and I know what I'm looking at when I watch boxing.

[switchsouthpaw]

tend to agree with most of this........Shane can be outboxed and Floyd is a master boxer.....even at 35 if Shane didn't hit him with something huge he would have likely lost a decision.

People always talk about fighters work rate and punch output or power when they are about to face Floyd......


Well all i have to say is that no fighter will have their usual work rate against floyd......floyd makes you payu for opening up.......and again...power is useless if you can't hit the target (see Martinez vs Pavlik for further recent vindication on that one)

All of that may hold some truth however a 38 year old's output versus that of someone even 5 years younger is quite different, consistency is the key from 154 all the way down, again that being said a younger Mosley still loses but I guarantee he would have been way more competitive.

[aguileraluis22]

Its nice to see flashes of the old mayweather this weekend. Not a floyd fan but a fan of his skills. The man is an excellent boxer. did think mosley was overtrained or something because even the round 2 shots seemed kinda of lucky for him. he did exactly what sr. said he was going to do fight "jittery". but im glad floyd gave the fans a show finally, him showing off his offensive skills not just defense. wouldve liked more firepower out of shane but all in all floyd delivered a good fight. hopefully he keeps it up.

[Jamel H]

good article...

[blank916]

One guy won, one guy lost. People celebrate pac beating a weight drained oscar (who floyd beat in better condition and higher weight), a below weight cotto, hatton who floyd just ko'ed as well..so on and so forth. Congradulate to winner and move on. If shane had won all this talk of too old, to tired, the lights getting in his eyes, his cereal being too cold wouldn't even have been brought up. There's be nothing floyd would say that people would buy. So the same should go for the silly excuses being thrown around after this fight. Shane got whoooped bottom line. Don't agree find someone to beat him.

[English puncher]

Shane was in great shape and even at his age still managed
to dismantle Margarito before. The reason Shane looked so
bad was because Floyd made him look that way. I think
Floyd would have beat Shane even back then because
Shane has always fought the same fight and Floyd was
hungrier and more aggressive in his come up days.
I just feel and think that Floyd has Mosley number period.

I am in shock at the commenst about this fight and floyds performace, shane mosley was shot like an old ww2 canon, i said after the mayorga fight, his speech is even ****ed up, he needs saving from himself! Floyd is a great, im not taking nothing away from him, im not a hater or nuthugger or whatever other childish names people apply, but the fact is, the fight was ****, sugar shane punched himself out in 2 rounds....seriously...2 rounds ???? brother naz should have chucked the towel in after the 5th round

[switchsouthpaw]

I am in shock at the commenst about this fight and floyds performace, shane mosley was shot like an old ww2 canon, i said after the mayorga fight, his speech is even ****ed up, he needs saving from himself! Floyd is a great, im not taking nothing away from him, im not a hater or nuthugger or whatever other childish names people apply, but the fact is, the fight was ****, sugar shane punched himself out in 2 rounds....seriously...2 rounds ???? brother naz should have chucked the towel in after the 5th round

I'm not the biggest fan of Floyd's personality, but many things contributed to his dominant performance on Saturday, while Mosley's age is a legitimate factor and cannot be discounted, neither can Floyd's ability to mentally take someone out their game plan. Shane looked physically exhausted to be sure, a lot of that was mental as well, Floyd contributed to that because he limits what you are able to do, while he himself is still able to do whatever he wants, it must be maddening being in there with him and Shane had the look of someone who was just water-boarded.

[aguileraluis22]

Cant take away anything away from floyd he did an awesome job recovering fromt round 2. i'd like to see him against a fighter in his prime like martinez or williams at 154, both of those guys can still make that weight and floyd well dam floyd looked real stout in this fight so im sure fighting at 154 is no problem for him. Impressive how that kid saul alvarez fought also. that kid is going to be good at welterweight for a little while then he'll start filling out. cant weight till he starts fighting some higher ranked opponents.

[big_james10]

The writer of this article said one thing that really caught my attention. He said beating the man who beat the man does not necessarily make you the best in the division. He followed that by saying that cleaning out the division would take a fighter from superb to superlative. I am assuming that this is intended as a slight against Mayweather.

However, using this logic this site should have never named Pacquaio Figthter of the Decade because he has not cleaned out any division. He was a titleholder at several weight divisions, but he has never fought the best at 135, 140 or 147 and he certainly hasn't cleaned out any divisions. Therefore, this writer, based on his own words, would say that Pacquaio is not a "superlative" fighter. If he is not superlative, he is not worthy of being called Fighter of the Decade. That honor should have gone to Bernard Hopkins.