Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” – Mosley-Mayweather: The Last Word

[English puncher]

I'm not the biggest fan of Floyd's personality, but many things contributed to his dominant performance on Saturday, while Mosley's age is a legitimate factor and cannot be discounted, neither can Floyd's ability to mentally take someone out their game plan. Shane looked physically exhausted to be sure, a lot of that was mental as well, Floyd contributed to that because he limits what you are able to do, while he himself is still able to do whatever he wants, it must be maddening being in there with him and Shane had the look of someone who was just water-boarded.

of course, but shane looked to me as if he thought i just cant do this anymore, the thing is we know mayweather is that good, that he can do all those things, it was a good win, but for me it was not a case of floyd and his performance, because we know he is that good, it was a case of shane, and how bad he looked mentally and physically, its a credit to who he once was that he stayed in the ring with floyd.

[switchsouthpaw]

of course, but shane looked to me as if he thought i just cant do this anymore, the thing is we know mayweather is that good, that he can do all those things, it was a good win, but for me it was not a case of floyd and his performance, because we know he is that good, it was a case of shane, and how bad he looked mentally and physically, its a credit to who he once was that he stayed in the ring with floyd.

I think so to, he had that look of "wtf am I still doing this for a living" in his eyes.

I give Mosley credit for round 2, in a big way, number one it wasn't a lucky punch as some have suggested as he set it up with the jab and he was going to body early, not once but twice he had Floyd shook. I'm not saying that a younger/hungrier Mosley gets him out of there, but a younger/hungrier Mosley would have had the energy to seize the moment, again credit to Floyd for showing he had some dog in him as well. I doubted that he had it in him in the first place and he proved that he does.

The only thing that bothers me is that he took this challenge at welterweight after the division had already thinned out. There aren't many viable options apart from moving to 154 and fighting maybe PWill or Sergio, or a few names at 140 but again there aren't many names out there that generate broad interest, apart from Manny and that fight is never ever going to happen.

[hanzoh74]

I read people saying that Mosley stopped punching or
became gun shy? It was the same with Oscar with his
jab. The reason why both men stop throwing punches
was because they couldn't figure out or hit Floyd.

there u go again twisting the facts..did u see Mosleys face in round 3 beyond?? He was gasping for air opening his mouth like that!! i say mosley's shot and u immediately ride on FMjs as most *****s do STFU

[Brassangel]

The writer of this article said one thing that really caught my attention. He said beating the man who beat the man does not necessarily make you the best in the division. He followed that by saying that cleaning out the division would take a fighter from superb to superlative. I am assuming that this is intended as a slight against Mayweather.

However, using this logic this site should have never named Pacquaio Figthter of the Decade because he has not cleaned out any division. He was a titleholder at several weight divisions, but he has never fought the best at 135, 140 or 147 and he certainly hasn't cleaned out any divisions. Therefore, this writer, based on his own words, would say that Pacquaio is not a "superlative" fighter. If he is not superlative, he is not worthy of being called Fighter of the Decade. That honor should have gone to Bernard Hopkins.

But quite simply, Pacquaio's resume is better than Mayweather's, even with losses. He's been in wars, trilogies, etc., that remind people of the golden era of boxing when the best fought each other over and over.

Mayweather does just enough to ho-hum a decision from a paper champ and then moves on before someone can present a challenge to him.

If, 3 years ago, he would have faced Cotto, Williams, and Margarito at 147, I'd give him more credit than I do now; win, lose, or draw. Especially if any of those fights were good enough to warrant a rematch or a trilogy.

Mosley was out boxed in this fight, but he was out boxed by Cotto, Forrest, and Wright. Similar situations in each case too. He starts off strong, but once they adjust and slow the pace of the fight down, he gets nervous and a little burnt out. He goes for something at the end of the fight, but just as Cotto took rounds 11 and 12, Mayweather made sure to stamp his seal of victory as well.

Shane had no adjustments in the bag. It became a one-punch-at-a-time fight and Mayweather will win that against anybody. It's like Roy Jones in his younger days. He makes you chase him a bit, feints and traps, and then throws a stinging counter. It makes an opponent gun shy the rest of the fight. Not because they are afraid to get hit, but because the manner in which it happens is quite embarrassing.

[waxfondler]

I read people saying that Mosley stopped punching or
became gun shy? It was the same with Oscar with his
jab. The reason why both men stop throwing punches
was because they couldn't figure out or hit Floyd.

i think mosley, like floyd's past opponents, was gun shy because of floyds pull counter... that must kill your confidence that everytime you jab, you get smacked in the mouth. LOL... it showed that mosley couldnt step up and eat those jabs and continue to pressure (or at least stay active to win rounds)... like i said before, shane's best chance at winning was having the judges on his side... he failed miserably at that.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

i think mosley, like floyd's past opponents, was gun shy because of floyds pull counter... that must kill your confidence that everytime you jab, you get smacked in the mouth. LOL... it showed that mosley couldnt step up and eat those jabs and continue to pressure (or at least stay active to win rounds)... like i said before, shane's best chance at winning was having the judges on his side... he failed miserably at that.

Absolutely Wax.

[GRUSTLER]

there u go again twisting the facts..did u see Mosleys face in round 3 beyond?? He was gasping for air opening his mouth like that!! i say mosley's shot and u immediately ride on FMjs as most *****s do STFU

Hey Moron, if you have read my posts prior to the fight
happening I already said that Floyd's conditioning was better
than Mosley's and would outlast him down the stretch but
people tried to debate with me. The majority of the posters
on here had Mosley knocking Mayweather out or Floyd couldn't
handle the pressure BUT now since Floyd made Mosley look like
an verage fighter, Mosley is old? I'm not buying it because
even Mosley said he was in tip top shape and fighting again
wouldn't be a problem. I just don't get why so many get mad
at posters who tell it like it is instead of just accepting the truth.
The same look of frustration Shane had, Oscar had it, Hatton,
Baldomir, Judah and so on. So many on here claim they watch
boxing and are fans but basically all you do is talk nonsense and
make things up to try to support your fiction. There is a big
problem on this site and needs to be corrected. Since when
do people who don't know anything about boxing criticize and
down play people that do? Why would I be making this up?
What do I gain from it? The problem is that you don't like Floyd
and that is not my problem.

[GRUSTLER]

i think mosley, like floyd's past opponents, was gun shy because of floyds pull counter... that must kill your confidence that everytime you jab, you get smacked in the mouth. LOL... it showed that mosley couldnt step up and eat those jabs and continue to pressure (or at least stay active to win rounds)... like i said before, shane's best chance at winning was having the judges on his side... he failed miserably at that.

I agree with you. Why can't some of these douche bags on
here just be unbias for a minute and just talk boxing from a
intelligent stand point instead of a personal dislike? I feel like
there are 10 and 11 year olds on here posting. The real boxing
fans who did pick against Floyd, had the balls to man up and
give him his props. It was a great performance against a
dangerous opponent who is respected in the sport of boxing
hands down. How many times do we have to hear the same
excuses?

[GRUSTLER]

But quite simply, Pacquaio's resume is better than Mayweather's, even with losses. He's been in wars, trilogies, etc., that remind people of the golden era of boxing when the best fought each other over and over.

Mayweather does just enough to ho-hum a decision from a paper champ and then moves on before someone can present a challenge to him.

If, 3 years ago, he would have faced Cotto, Williams, and Margarito at 147, I'd give him more credit than I do now; win, lose, or draw. Especially if any of those fights were good enough to warrant a rematch or a trilogy.

Mosley was out boxed in this fight, but he was out boxed by Cotto, Forrest, and Wright. Similar situations in each case too. He starts off strong, but once they adjust and slow the pace of the fight down, he gets nervous and a little burnt out. He goes for something at the end of the fight, but just as Cotto took rounds 11 and 12, Mayweather made sure to stamp his seal of victory as well.

Shane had no adjustments in the bag. It became a one-punch-at-a-time fight and Mayweather will win that against anybody. It's like Roy Jones in his younger days. He makes you chase him a bit, feints and traps, and then throws a stinging counter. It makes an opponent gun shy the rest of the fight. Not because they are afraid to get hit, but because the manner in which it happens is quite embarrassing.

See, this is the thing that gets me. How can Manny Pacquiao's
resume be more impressive than Floyd's when 1, Floyd dominated
130 and Manny didn't. Floyd fought dangerous and more guys
at 135 and Pac didn't. Pac fought Oscar and Hatton after Floyd
beat them and now Floyd fought Mosley (The #1 WW) and dominated
him. How is Pac resume better? Because he fought Morales, Barrera
and got some gifts from the judges with Marquez AND fought Cotto
at 145 instead of 147? How is Pac's resume better? I would say
some of Pac's performances are more exciting than Floyd's but that's
about it. Floyd being a champ UNDEFEATED for 10 YEARS alone is
a bigger achievement. I like Pac but his fans make me not like him
because through everything all most do is Cosign everything he does
and not take the good with the bad. But you know what? I'm not
going to blame Pac for everyone else's actions or words. I like
watching him fight and will continue to do so AND hopefully Floyd
is next.

[bobbyb363]

I'm not the biggest fan of Floyd's personality, but many things contributed to his dominant performance on Saturday, while Mosley's age is a legitimate factor and cannot be discounted, neither can Floyd's ability to mentally take someone out their game plan. Shane looked physically exhausted to be sure, a lot of that was mental as well, Floyd contributed to that because he limits what you are able to do, while he himself is still able to do whatever he wants, it must be maddening being in there with him and Shane had the look of someone who was just water-boarded.

Shane' s team knew the key to the fight was a strong jab. Sometimes its hard to teach an old dog a new trick. I thought Shane had a shot but only by KO. I could not see him beating Mayweather on a decision because if he could beat him by decision that means he should be able to get him out of there. 5 years ago it would have been somewhat different being that Shane would have been younger and faster. I was so surprised about his stamina but like the commentators said maybe he overtrained getting ready for Berto. Regardless his only shot would have been by KO.
I was one of those guys who criticized Floyd for his opposition and I am glad he stepped up. I have been wanting him to fight Shane for years along with a couple other guys.
Margarito would have gotten KO'd now that he knows he doesn't have loaded gloves, Cotto is ruined by Margarito, Vernon taken out by a piece of S**T here in Atlanta.
In my opinion Floyd doesn't have to fight another person to gain my respect. Yep Shane was 38 but hey he was on my list for Floyd to fight. Shane needs to retire because he is 38, nothing to prove and gains nothing by fighting these younger guys except money unless he gets Pac. Beating Pac can't erase sub-par performance against Mayweather and based on his lack of a "decent" jab, he will never beat Mayeather.
Mayweather is the undisputed best active boxer.