Still no real reason why Pac needs to take any tests

[DeadLikeMe]

You have to look at Pac one of two ways...either he was juicing the whole time and got out-juiced (let the commission do their job)...or he was the benefactor of brilliant matchmaking...very high level skillful matchmaking.

[Bee Keepz]

Look back to early 08 or 07, Pacquiao wasn't even mentioned with the likes of Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, Hatton, De La Hoya but he went out and BEAT them, and it wasn't like he didn't have mileage under him before then.

[Phenom]

You have to look at Pac one of two ways...either he was juicing the whole time and got out-juiced (let the commission do their job)...or he was the benefactor of brilliant matchmaking...very high level skillful matchmaking.

why cant it be both

[Bee Keepz]

You have to look at Pac one of two ways...either he was juicing the whole time and got out-juiced (let the commission do their job)...or he was the benefactor of brilliant matchmaking...very high level skillful matchmaking.

Marquez wasn't juicing he looked older and slower. He just has that grit and experience to time and pull out one hell of a punch.

But you don't get the point, neither of them cared if each other was juicing they just wanted to prove to each other they were better than the other.

Marquez proved it in the ring, Mayweather wanted none of it.

[El Malo.]

That's what happens sometimes when you take risks, there is no shame in the way Pacquiao went out.

It's boxing.

WTF are you talking about no shame. No shame would have been him fighting Marquez at 140, that would have been a fair fight for both. Making him go up to 143 so he could have the physical advantages over the old man and choking during fight night is pretty shameful. Then if that wasn't enough they want to rematch the older man and now it should be at 147? What kind of sht is that. What a warrior lets make the older man even slower. He got what he deserved and I hope that if they fight again Marquez ask for a 138 lb. catch weight with a million dollar penalty for every pound if Pac doesn't make weight. Well see if Pac is willing to play his own game

[El Malo.]

i wonder where this near 40 year old got the power to finally knockdown and KO pac...interesting how pac fought him in his prime TWICE...and the only person who went down those two times were marquez.

I wonder how fcking ******ed Pac is for allowing himself to play Marquez fight. How fcking ******ed is he that in four I mean seriously four fcking fights he didn't learn not to rush in ******ly against Marquez. He paid the prize for being the idiot that he is.

[Bee Keepz]

Guerrero was a FW too, but look what he did to the natural WW Andre Berto, is he on the juice? This just goes to show that you know nothing about walk around weights, weigh in weights, and fight night weights.

[El Malo.]

didn't marquez outweigh pac on fight night in their third fight? and not to mention marquez looked like the bigger guy again in the fourth fight...both guys are about the same height, same reach..so there's not much physical advantage..it's not so hard for an older fighter to move up in weight as it is to move down in weight, no?

Is Marquez not slower at this weight? Wasn't that the reason this great warrior wanted the fight at 143 and then 147? Or was Pac just trying to help the old man out and didn't want him over stressing to make the 140lb mark? Seriously get the fck out of here with that ****. Lets see how Manny likes it when Marquez asks him to fight at 140, that fool gonna straight out duck the fight and most likely his gonna rematch Bradley before even considering fighting the old man at 140.

[Bee Keepz]

I wonder how fcking ******ed Pac is for allowing himself to play Marquez fight. How fcking ******ed is he that in four I mean seriously four fcking fights he didn't learn not to rush in ******ly against Marquez. He paid the prize for being the idiot that he is.

Neither guy wanted to leave it to the judges hands, both guys weren't looking at a decision. They had that KO mindset and you can tell it in the fight, both guys were going for broke.

[El Malo.]

Neither guy wanted to leave it to the judges hands, both guys weren't looking at a decision. They had that KO mindset and you can tell it in the fight, both guys were going for broke.

WTF are you talking about. Pac was actually using more angles then the previous 3 fights. He was going to try to outpoint Marquez and if the KO came it would have been a plus. But Manny being Manny he just can't help himself but jump in, which usually works with lesser opponents but never against Marquez. Marquez was just trying to shock him with one punch whenever Pac was jumping in. Neither one was expecting a KO it just happened because of Manny being the aggressive beast that he is cant help himself but attack.