The whole issue over the drug testing might just be the convenient excuse...

[Shattered Jaw]

Pacquaio doesn't know what he's saying half the time - guy can't even speak English that great!

To be fair to him. I've had blood taken before and couldn't see anything for 3 minutes! It can affect you and close to a fight the last thing you want to worry about is a bunch of randoms turning up to take your blood.

I'm not convinced Mayweather will accept anything less than random tests up to 5days-48 hours before the fight though. I can see Mayweather's case as well - if we wants to protect himself and be absolutely sure that his opponent is not taking drugs then fair play to him. He's earned the right to do that.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

We now know Floyd isn't 'scared' of anybody.

They said he was scared of Mosley.

Floyd mocked Mosley to his face . . . and then destroyed him and talked to him while doing it.



Let's finally acknowledge that Floyd isn't scared of anybody who brings a big payday.

The payday's nothing to us. But it is to Mayweather. And we should now finally be able to comprehend it as a factor in why he makes the choices he makes.

None of this poseur-ish 'real boxing fan' pretending to 'keep it real' bull****. But just getting over it and seeing why things are the way they are - ceasing to be spoiled children who throw our toys out the pram if we don't get the fights 'we want'.

A little keen perception goes a long-ass way.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Last night was a DAMN TREAT of AN EVENT (not an 'Event').


I'm thankful for the blessings of yesterday evening. It was beautiful.

[Porter's Dad]

We now know Floyd isn't 'scared' of anybody.

I don't think he's scared of anybody, he's just scared of losing. And Pacquaio represents his biggest chance of defeat.

I think Pac spooked Team Mayweather a little, especially after the Cotto fight. I'm certain that if the Mosley fight had been negotiated first before the Pac fight was, then they would not have demanded random drug testing. I don't for a second believe Floyd thinks it's going to be a cake walk. While he's the favourite, it's still a risky fight. If they didn't view Pac as a risk, they wouldn't be so insistent on the drug testing, and believe so firmly that he is juicing.

You're right, Floyd is driven by massively money, but he doesn't disregard risk.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

I don't think he's scared of anybody, he's just scared of losing. And Pacquaio represents his biggest chance of defeat.

I think Pac spooked Team Mayweather a little, especially after the Cotto fight. I'm certain that if the Mosley fight had been negotiated first before the Pac fight was, then they would not have demanded random drug testing. I don't for a second believe Floyd thinks it's going to be a cake walk. While he's the favourite, it's still a risky fight. If they didn't view Pac as a risk, they wouldn't be so insistent on the drug testing, and believe so firmly that he is juicing.

You're right, Floyd is driven by massively money, but he doesn't disregard risk.

Who wants to lose? Especially this far up? This is high-stakes.

But the Pacquiao payday, EVENT, represents the apotheosis of everything Floyd's worked for. He doesn't have that many prime fights left - why wouldn't he risk it now?


To the bold, I say again,

I don't see a shred of doubt in Mayweather when he says he'd take Pacquiao apart. But I do think they want to make sure he's entering the ring clean for the sake of safety. If Floyd fights safety-first, what makes you think he'd want to enter the ring with a guy who's doing dirt, even if he's sure he can beat that guy's ass? This is an inherently risky, high-stakes business.



The '0', the undefeated record, is a promotional shuck Floyd uses, because it sells. He knows boxing better than any of us, he knows what a loss really is in the sport, the different things it can mean spiritually to, and the divergent impacts it can have on, a fighter, contrary to the image he sells of an '0' being the be-all/end-all.
People really sleep on Floyd's ingrained understanding of the culture of boxing, the actual reality and then the exoteric part of it, the public perception. He lives breathes and sleeps this **** to a degree you and I can only imagine. Look how totally immersed he is in the culture and how many different masks he dons for different jobs in his life and career, which are both the same thing. It all revolves around boxing for this kid.

I wish I could find the video I saw with the indirect words that unconsciously illustrated this, or remember the words verbatim . . . but there are so many Floyd interview videos out there, I lose track of what's what and where.



But to put it a short way, you're applying simple logic to something that is far from simple.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

That Manny/P.E.D.'s buzz going around predates anything that came out of Floyd Sr.'s mouth, BTW. It isn't just the Mayweathers stirring up **** out of nowhere.

Floyd sees the money tantalizingly in reach. But nobody wants to go in the ring with a cheat, this is your health and any future livelihood on the line, and things can go wrong for anyone in a boxing ring, Floyd knows this reality in the back of his mind - so they're making sure the kid's coming in clean, Period.

[Porter's Dad]

Who wants to lose? Especially this far up? This is high-stakes.

But the Pacquiao payday, EVENT, represents the apotheosis of everything Floyd's worked for. He doesn't have that many prime fights left - why wouldn't he risk it now?


To the bold, I say again,

I don't see a shred of doubt in Mayweather when he says he'd take Pacquiao apart. But I do think they want to make sure he's entering the ring clean for the sake of safety. If Floyd fights safety-first, what makes you think he'd want to enter the ring with a guy who's doing dirt, even if he's sure he can beat that guy's ass? This is a risky, high-stakes business.



The '0', the undefeated record, is a promotional shuck Floyd uses, because it sells. He knows boxing better than any of us, he knows what a loss really is in the sport, the different things it can mean spiritually to, and the divergent impacts it can have on, a fighter, contrary to the image he sells of an '0' being the be-all/end-all.
People really sleep on Floyd's ingrained understanding of the culture of boxing, the actual reality and then the exoteric part of it, the public perception. He lives breathes and sleeps this **** to a degree you and I can only imagine. Look how totally immersed he is in the culture and how many different masks he dons for different jobs in his life and career, which are both the same thing. It all revolves around boxing for this kid.

I wish I could find the video I saw with the indirect words that unconsciously illustrated this, or remember the words verbatim . . . but there are so many Floyd interview videos out there, I lose track of what's what and where.



But you're basically applying simple logic to something that is far from simple.

Maybe you're right. After all, who truly does know whether either fighter wants to evade the other. We can't even say for sure they both even want each other, we're all just interpreting actions/words.

I just hope my gut-feeling that this fight doesn't come off is wrong.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

I just hope my gut-feeling that this fight doesn't come off is wrong.

It probably isn't.


Team Manny won't compromise. If the commission enforce something, there'll find another snag. They'll put him in with Margarito or another equally embarrassing matchup. I'm calling it now. If I'm wrong, I'll be delighted.

[Porter's Dad]

It probably isn't.


Team Manny won't compromise. If the commission enforce something, there'll find another snag. They'll put him in with Margarito or another equally embarrassing matchup. I'm calling it now. If I'm wrong, I'll be delighted.

Fights Margs would be a joke. If you really think about it, there's no other fight left out there for either. It couldn't be more perfectly poised. They've taken care of business at WW. They're the last two men standing.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Last night was a DAMN TREAT of AN EVENT (not an 'Event').


I'm thankful for the blessings of yesterday evening. It was beautiful.

I got to say everything was damn good.. undercard was too!!

First fight was a mini war
2nd fight was ok
3rd fight was excellent seeing a prospect come back from being in trouble and get a tko win

Main event was great to obviously

Alot better then the card Top rank put out a month or two ago