The whole issue over the drug testing might just be the convenient excuse...

[Porter's Dad]

for Floyd and Pac not to fight each other. I truly believed that the fight would be made later this year, with both of them taking a fight before (Clottey/Shane) to build the anticipation, and make some money before the eventual showdown.

But then you realise that both of them could retire today and they would be regarded as legends and two of the best of their era.

It's a very risky fight for both. Whoever loses has their legacy dented considerably. Maybe it suits them to just avoid each other, with a seemingly non-negotiable issue (the testing) blocking things.

It's the fight the fans want. But is it the fight both fighters truly want?

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

C'mon, Keys'.


You know Floyd wants it.


You really doubt that? Pac's who he came a' looking for, my man.




Blood and piss. Give it and it's on.

[Shattered Jaw]

They have to fight. However, I still agree with Manny's position.

If the commission force testing until 5 days before the fight: it will happen.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

However, I still agree with Manny's position.

My perspective,

Even if you think his motives are Machiavellian, ultimately it's not something outrageous he's asking for in principle. Don't you think it would be great if Pacquiao did as Mosley did and teamed up with Floyd and said 'yeah, let's do this, this is a good thing'? That's the most positive approach for Team Pac to take if they truly want the fight . . . that's true even if they think Mayweather's trying to involve them in mental warfare - because they totally disarm him by casually meeting his 'unreasonable' challenge.

[Shattered Jaw]

You have to look at this from Roach and Pac's point of view. Pacquaio is just as arrogant as Mayweather, perhaps even more so. He's not going to let someone else tell him what to do if he doesn't have to do it.

Anyway, they both agreed to tests. It's just the cut-off date. Pac's a superstitious guy as well so I think that's half the reason he doesn't want to give blood near the date of the fight. He's very religious etc.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

But maybe you're right.

The commission need to force this, then Team Pac doesn't have to feel like it's complying with Floyd.

Then there are really no excuses to avoid it.

And we are guaranteed neither fighter in the ring will be dirty.


It could only be a good thing. This needs to happen.

[DeLaHoya1fan]

I don't think either of them really want to fight each other because whoever loses will be known as the 'second best'

besides Pac should take the test, if he wins at least he leaves Floyd fans with one less excuse.

[Porter's Dad]

C'mon, Keys'.


You know Floyd wants it.


You really doubt that? Pac's who he came a' looking for, my man.




Blood and piss. Give it and it's on.

Both say they want it but I'm not completely convinced they do.

While I favour Floyd to win, it's a very risky for him, and we've got to be honest and admit Floyd isn't the kind of fighter who fights all-comers. I think the money is very seductive to him, but he also knows that he will go down as a great, regardless of whether he beats Pac.

I hope I'm wrong because it would be a travesty if this fight didn't go down.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

You have to look at this from Roach and Pac's point of view. Pacquaio is just as arrogant as Mayweather, perhaps even more so. He's not going to let someone else tell him what to do if he doesn't have to do it.

Anyway, they both agreed to tests. It's just the cut-off date. Pac's a superstitious guy as well so I think that's half the reason he doesn't want to give blood near the date of the fight. He's very religious etc.

Bold acknowledged.




To the latter, now it's,

"if they get blood from me close to the match, it will be a disadvantage for me because I'm smaller and he's big."

HUH? What is that?


And, anyway, did Manny's physical appearance in the ring in recent welterweight prizefights not make it seem like his 'smallness' had been somewhat oversupposed?

We already know that Pac isn't the poor little-man some would like to make him out to be,

illustrated very well from 8.10 to 9.40,




Floyd is taller and longer than Manny. Any other size difference between the two, if any, is very negligible.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Both say they want it but I'm not completely convinced they do.

While I favour Floyd to win, it's a very risky for him, and we've got to be honest and admit Floyd isn't the kind of fighter who fights all-comers. I think the money is very seductive to him, but he also knows that he will go down as a great, regardless of whether he beats Pac.

I hope I'm wrong because it would be a travesty if this fight didn't go down.

Keyser,


what options do Team Manny and Top Rank have besides this fight?
Yep, they can keep the money-train rolling in-house, with stylistically mismatched, stage-managed fare like Pacquiao-Clottey, Pacquiao-Margarito or Pacquiao-Anotherruggedflatfootedmadetoorderpatsy.

What options do Team Mayweather have?
Paul Williams? Sergio Martinez? You know how Floyd works by now - Floyd fights all-comers who bring that ca-a-ashhhh. He came back for that REAL moolah, and Pac's the only guy he can make it with.




When people said 'Pacquiao doesn't need Mayweather', they were right . . . but not in the way they meant it.

I don't see a shred of doubt in Mayweather when he says he'd take Pacquiao apart. But I do think they want to make sure he's entering the ring clean for the sake of safety. If Floyd fights safety-first, what makes you think he'd want to enter the ring with a guy who's doing dirt, even if he's sure he can beat that guy's ass? This is a risky, high-stakes business.


Come on now. Diplomacy isn't necessary for its own sake.