I think some people miss the point about the Lewis Klitschko fight

[SacTown1]

I was in tha house on June 21 '03 for the fight, Last row, top corner, surrounded by an entire section of dudes w/ Ukranian flags....anyhow, Lewis was better than Klitschko that night, because his punches clearly did the most damage, even though Vitali fought bravely, won over the crowd, & was technically in the lead points-wise.....now Vitali is champ, & although he'll never be as great as Lennox was, he's technically the top dawg & somebody's gotta take 'em down before they can claim to be the Heavyweight King, I like seeing that the Rahman-Barrett winner is getting the next swipe at Klitschko, both are underachievers with big power & would pose a big threat to the champ.....word

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Klit left the ring that night like a winner, the crowd treated him like the winner, and Lewis like the loser.
Who knows what would have happened if the fight were allowed to continue, Lewis may have knocked Klit out but we will never know now because Lewis was too chicken to get in the ring with Klit again.
I'm no fan of the Klit boys or of Lewis. But I see Lewis totally avoiding another fight with Klit because he knew there was a VERY good chance he'd lose.
I find it ironic that Lewis always flapped his gums his whole career how this guy and that guy was ducking him, now that he finally ran into someone that could give him trouble AND a huge money fight that the fans actually WANT to see, he takes off and goes home because his Mommy asked him to retire.
That my friends is not a champion the people look up to.

And this came from a neutral person

[scap]

Sometimes when you win you really lose and sometimes when you lose you really win.

Rosie Perez

[Foreman]

Pretty simple answer to this question. If "your" guy won the fight, it's ok. If "your" guy lost it's a travesty. Nobody is unbiased anymore, especially not here.

I'm not really a fan of either Lewis or Klit. That having been said, I felt that the fight ended unsatifactorily. If Lewis had been knocking Klit from pillar to post for 10rounds and a cut opened up, that would be one thing. But this was a competitive fight that was up for grabs. How many thought the first Tyson-Ruddock fight ended satifactorily? Tyson won fair and square, but the public demanded a rematch. Same thing should have happened with Lewis. Nobody knows what was going on in Lewis's head except him, but for some reason he din't want anything to do with Kilt after their first fight. Just for pride he should have given a return bout. If he was all that people say he is, a couple months training, 10million in the bank and Klit laid out on the canvas. Something tells me that Lewis didn't think that was how it would play out.

[Bozo_no no]

Pretty simple answer to this question. If "your" guy won the fight, it's ok. If "your" guy lost it's a travesty. Nobody is unbiased anymore, especially not here.

I'm not really a fan of either Lewis or Klit. That having been said, I felt that the fight ended unsatifactorily. If Lewis had been knocking Klit from pillar to post for 10rounds and a cut opened up, that would be one thing. But this was a competitive fight that was up for grabs. How many thought the first Tyson-Ruddock fight ended satifactorily? Tyson won fair and square, but the public demanded a rematch. Same thing should have happened with Lewis. Nobody knows what was going on in Lewis's head except him, but for some reason he din't want anything to do with Kilt after their first fight. Just for pride he should have given a return bout. If he was all that people say he is, a couple months training, 10million in the bank and Klit laid out on the canvas. Something tells me that Lewis didn't think that was how it would play out.

He was 37 years old, and was provided with a fine example from Holyfield about what happens to a fighter that sticks around too long. It was his porogative to walk away when he did.

Vitali had his shot, and he lost. You are right about the match being competitve in terms of exchanges, but not when one guys face is pounded into a bloody pulp.

Klitschko elected to slug it out with Lewis, and he came out on the losing end.

[scap]

Pretty simple answer to this question. If "your" guy won the fight, it's ok. If "your" guy lost it's a travesty. Nobody is unbiased anymore, especially not here.

I'm not really a fan of either Lewis or Klit. That having been said, I felt that the fight ended unsatifactorily. If Lewis had been knocking Klit from pillar to post for 10rounds and a cut opened up, that would be one thing. But this was a competitive fight that was up for grabs. How many thought the first Tyson-Ruddock fight ended satifactorily? Tyson won fair and square, but the public demanded a rematch. Same thing should have happened with Lewis. Nobody knows what was going on in Lewis's head except him, but for some reason he din't want anything to do with Kilt after their first fight. Just for pride he should have given a return bout. If he was all that people say he is, a couple months training, 10million in the bank and Klit laid out on the canvas. Something tells me that Lewis didn't think that was how it would play out.

That a pretty high quality post and I obviously over the last ten zillion posts on this thread could not put it even close to as well as you put it...

[!! Mr. Soprano]

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Originally Posted by Foreman Pretty simple answer to this question. If "your" guy won the fight, it's ok. If "your" guy lost it's a travesty. Nobody is unbiased anymore, especially not here. I'm not really a fan of either Lewis or Klit. That having been said, I felt that the fight ended unsatifactorily. If Lewis had been knocking Klit from pillar to post for 10rounds and a cut opened up, that would be one thing. But this was a competitive fight that was up for grabs. How many thought the first Tyson-Ruddock fight ended satifactorily? Tyson won fair and square, but the public demanded a rematch. Same thing should have happened with Lewis. Nobody knows what was going on in Lewis's head except him, but for some reason he din't want anything to do with Kilt after their first fight. Just for pride he should have given a return bout. If he was all that people say he is, a couple months training, 10million in the bank and Klit laid out on the canvas. Something tells me that Lewis didn't think that was how it would play out.

That a pretty high quality post and I obviously over the last ten zillion posts on this thread could not put it even close to as well as you put it...

Yes Excellent!

[SonnyG8R]

who's to say he wouldn't have done the exact same thing again in a rematch?

The sad thing is we'll never know because Lewis pussied out after assuring Vitali that he would give him a rematch.

[leff]

Lewis is a smart man and figured out that even though the money was good, the risk was to big.



questions

1 some here said that LL took the figh on short notice and against a better opponennt than expected.

but who realy thinks its harder to meet VK after training for Johnson than fightin LL when you trained for Boswell?

2 Why didnt LL rematch VK if his statments that he was about to ko VK were true? He even said he would on tv after the fight.
He also said if the money was right, so 39.1 million aint enough?

[J !]

leff good points but its obvious that its harder to stay at the top than it is to get there.

Lewis had by this stage in his career become lax when he thought he could blow out an opponent and had been at the top for some time.

In fact he did exactly the same vs rahman and got caught, he should really have learned his lesson there.

Vitali was vaunting a showdown really on the undercard and wanted to put on a good show as a hungry challenger looking to go in with Lewis in the next fight.

When Johnson pulled out Liews as promoter (Lion promtions) aswell stood to lose millions so agreed with Vitali to get it on to save the show and his money.

Lewis would not have taken the fight if it wasnt his money he was going to lose, of this i am convinced.

However none of this clears lewis, he did take the fight he did undertrain and he did however win despite this facts.

simple as that.