I think some people miss the point about the Lewis Klitschko fight

[Bozo_no no]

Lewis is a smart man and figured out that even though the money was good, the risk was to big.



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1 some here said that LL took the figh on short notice and against a better opponennt than expected.

but who realy thinks its harder to meet VK after training for Johnson than fightin LL when you trained for Boswell?

2 Why didnt LL rematch VK if his statments that he was about to ko VK were true? He even said he would on tv after the fight.
He also said if the money was right, so 39.1 million aint enough?

1. They both took the fight on short notice, and this was never really a topic of concearn in this thread.

2. He was 38 after the 1st fight, and had Holyfield as an example as to what happens to fighters that stick around too long. It was his porogative to retire when he did.

Vitali wasn't owed anything. He had his chance, Lewis was inactive and out of shape, and Vitali lost. Instead of dwelling
on why he didn't get a rematch, ask yourself why he wasn't able to capatalize in his 1st chance. The answer would be because he elected to fight a slugfest and got his face turned into pudding.

[Michael Wittmann]

leff good points but its obvious that its harder to stay at the top than it is to get there.

Lewis had by this stage in his career become lax when he thought he could blow out an opponent and had been at the top for some time.

In fact he did exactly the same vs rahman and got caught, he should really have learned his lesson there.

Vitali was vaunting a showdown really on the undercard and wanted to put on a good show as a hungry challenger looking to go in with Lewis in the next fight.

When Johnson pulled out Liews as promoter (Lion promtions) aswell stood to lose millions so agreed with Vitali to get it on to save the show and his money.

Lewis would not have taken the fight if it wasnt his money he was going to lose, of this i am convinced.

However none of this clears lewis, he did take the fight he did undertrain and he did however win despite this facts.

simple as that.

lets put on our thinking hats again..

what if it all where pre planned.. that jhonnson would pull out and vitali would be unprepared for lewis - while levis hed been trainig for vitali for a full year...

thats the plausible thing, if youre looking at the big picture, and what these people do for conducting buisniss..

wlads waterbottle and all, its just funny.

its not sports, its sissy ****..

[leff]

we dont know for sure that he undertrained.And if he was that was no excuse, VK had a much higher pce in the sanders fight, in other wors he was better trained for sanders.

LL had newer fought a that pace with a fighter with VK size and skill together.

he was what 6pounds heavier than then he fought tyson?

how weird is it that a 38 year old gain 6lbs whenhe hasnt fought in a year.

all man get heavier as they get older.

Question:When do you think LL`s prime was?

[Bozo_no no]

we dont know for sure that he undertrained.And if he was that was no excuse...

Excuse for what? He won. He beat Vitali's face into a bloody pulp and the fight was stopped.

You talk about Lewis not having fought a guy that big who fought at that pace before.

That's not really the issue. The issue would be that Vitali never fought someone that big (and accurate) a puncher. He elected to take shots to give shots, and it lost him the fight when he face didn't hold up to the punishment he was taking.

[leff]

1. They both took the fight on short notice, and this was never really a topic of concearn in this thread.

2. He was 38 after the 1st fight, and had Holyfield as an example as to what happens to fighters that stick around too long. It was his porogative to retire when he did.

Vitali wasn't owed anything. He had his chance, Lewis was inactive and out of shape, and Vitali lost. Instead of dwelling
on why he didn't get a rematch, ask yourself why he wasn't able to capatalize in his 1st chance. The answer would be because he elected to fight a slugfest and got his face turned into pudding.

he wasnt abble to win the first the time because LL cut him with the edge off the glove and got the tko victory in a fight he was losing.

that i allready know mr bozo.

[J !]

ill ignore wittmans inanae ramblings as usual and respond to you leff.

Lewis prime its hard to tell cos he suffered two big setbacks.

the fighter that beat Razor ruddock was a different fighter to the one that beat tyson.

If you look at his record his most impressive streak comes after the Mcall defeat through to the rahman defeat so you would call that his prime I guess but for me the two masterclasses were his revenge of the rahmann loss, and the bullying of Iron mike.

he was an unstoppable force in those two fights. IMO.

[Michael Wittmann]

blowzo go go

-notice how small his brains are?

[J !]

he wasnt abble to win the first the time because LL cut him with the edge off the glove and got the tko victory in a fight he was losing.

that i allready know mr bozo.

leff a fight hew was losing but not badly mate. to be 4 rnds to 2 down at healf way is **** all buddy, too much is made of this.

Lots of fights at halfway have one guy ahead and the other wins it.

Its bollox to keep harping on about that mate, sorry.

[Bozo_no no]

he wasnt abble to win the first the time because LL cut him with the edge off the glove and got the tko victory in a fight he was losing.

that i allready know mr bozo.

We've been though all of this earler in the thread.

There is no "Winning" before you lose.

He LOST. Period. Lewis landed at 50% of his powershots, and the cut was caused by a punch, and worsend by more punches.

[Michael Wittmann]

ill ignore wittmans inanae ramblings as usual and respond to you leff.

Lewis prime its hard to tell cos he suffered two big setbacks.

the fighter that beat Razor ruddock was a different fighter to the one that beat tyson.

If you look at his record his most impressive streak comes after the Mcall defeat through to the rahman defeat so you would call that his prime I guess but for me the two masterclasses were his revenge of the rahmann loss, and the bullying of Iron mike.

he was an unstoppable force in those two fights. IMO.

you couldent ignore me even if you tried, julia

but i give you credit for trying..