NSAC Considers New Blood Testing Program

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  • Jim Tom
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    #81
    Originally posted by snd_dsigner_dan
    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,0,44910.story

    The commission will conduct a hearing in May to study the way testing works in the upcoming Mayweather-Mosley fight. An official says a program could be in place before the fall.

    By Lance Pugmire
    April 29, 2010

    Manny Pacquiao has said he's willing to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. as long as any drug-testing policy is determined by a state commission, and not forced upon him like the independent program Mayweather and Shane Mosley agreed to for their Saturday welterweight title bout.

    Now, the Nevada State Athletic Commission will consider adding a blood-testing program similar to the one Mayweather and Mosley are following.

    Keith Kizer, the Nevada commission's executive director, said Thursday the commission will conduct a mid-May hearing to explore the effectiveness of the Mayweather-Mosley blood-and urine-testing program conducted by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency. USADA head Travis Tygart is expected to attend the Nevada hearing and update commissioners about progress in detecting the use of performance-enhancing Human Growth Hormone and energy boosting EPO.

    The Mayweather-Mosley promotion paid in excess of $20,000 for the agency to conduct the fighters' drug tests. Mosley said this week he's already submitted eight urine and four blood samples.

    "A lot can be learned from what's occurred from Mosley-Mayweather and we want to mine that information," Kizer said. "It will depend on what the experts say, but if [a push for blood testing] is stressed, then I would think we'd act. If there's a way to improve our drug testing every year, we've proven we'll do it."

    Kizer said it's feasible Nevada will a have blood testing program in place before the fall.

    Negotiations for a Pacquiao-Mayweather bout fell apart when the fighters' camps squabbled over how close to a fight blood tests would take place. Pacquiao complained that blood draws weakened him, while Mayweather's camp suggested the Filipino star used performance-enhancing drugs.

    Mayweather's co-promoter Richard Schaefer applauded Nevada's move toward becoming the first state commission to incorporate blood testing. "To not have the most thorough testing methods is inexcusable," he said.

    And Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum said, "Whatever the commission rules are, we'll follow them."

    Many logistics would still need to be resolved: Who will pay for the blood tests? How often will they be employed? How would a fighter who tested positive be penalized?

    Meanwhile, Mayweather remains a 4-to-1 favorite to beat Mosley in their bout Saturday, according to the MGM/Mirage Race and Sports Book, although most bettors are wagering the fight will go the distance.

    Pacquiao, in the midst of campaigning for a congressional seat in the Philippines, is picking Mosley to beat Mayweather. His close friend, Winchell Campos said, Pacquiao "likes Mosley's power and speed and thinks he'll have a better plan."

    Regardless of who wins, both will do well financially.

    Kizer announced Mayweather will earn a minimum of $22.5 million for the fight before pay-per-view profits, and that Mosley will earn up to $7 million.

    Next fight?

    If Mayweather beats Mosley, there will be significant work ahead to secure the super-fight the boxing world has clamored for.

    Arum wants a Pacquiao-Mayweather bout at Cowboys Stadium in Texas, noting, "I'd rather do it before 108,000 people in a stadium than 15,000 in an arena."

    Schaefer responded, "The Las Vegas environment is much more conducive to staging a major pay-per-view, look at the record numbers we did [in 2007] with Mayweather-De La Hoya. The MGM Grand has built up a reputation as being the fight capital of the world."
    Then kiss the Top Rank fighters goodbye,from now on they will all be fighting in Texas

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      #82
      Looks like Mayweather "not taking the proper avenues" was effective afterall. Like I said, to get anything done properly in boxing you gotta take your fate into your own hands.

      Although they are only 'considering' it, and I'm doubtful they'd upgrade to a full USADA regime, this is still progress and can only be a good thing. It should also be a reminder to everyone who has argued otherwise that the NSAC are well aware that the USADA testing is far more effective than their current.

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        #83
        No doubt Mayweather because of his rants on OST suddenly became credited, whatever his reasons are in asking for OST it seemed arriving at the proper venues.

        But what people overlook is the reason why NSAC (and other commisions) are adapting or announcing to adapt an improved testing proceedure is because they think the fight is gonna happen very soon in the near future, and every commision is cashing in on the millions of $ to be earned by this megafight.

        Mark my word that every commision will make a run outta this for them to get the megafight, then after it they wouldn't even give a rat's arse about OST...


        Money talks baby (just like how Floyd rolls hah)

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          #84
          Originally posted by S.G.
          Looks like Mayweather "not taking the proper avenues" was effective afterall. Like I said, to get anything done properly in boxing you gotta take your fate into your own hands.

          Although they are only 'considering' it, and I'm doubtful they'd upgrade to a full USADA regime, this is still progress and can only be a good thing. It should also be a reminder to everyone who has argued otherwise that the NSAC are well aware that the USADA testing is far more effective than their current.
          Yes far more effective but also far more irrational. USADA has thier rules such as the fighters must provide thier whereabouts at all times and test can be perform anytime. But an undercard fighter cannot pay for these kinds of test that costs thousands. If they do make blood testing mandatory then it will most likely be 3 times; beginning of camp, middle and after the fight

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            #85
            Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
            No doubt Mayweather because of his rants on OST suddenly became credited, whatever his reasons are in asking for OST it seemed arriving at the proper venues.

            But what people overlook is the reason why NSAC (and other commisions) are adapting or announcing to adapt an improved testing proceedure is because they think the fight is gonna happen very soon in the near future, and every commision is cashing in on the millions of $ to be earned by this megafight.

            Mark my word that every commision will make a run outta this for them to get the megafight, then after it they wouldn't even give a rat's arse about OST...


            Money talks baby (just like how Floyd rolls hah)
            You have a point, i think they will make it nessacery for only big title fights like Mannys Vs FLoyd and thats pretty much it. No way a contending fighter can afford these test and NSAC are definatly not paying for it

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              #86
              Originally posted by Jakutindi Wauya
              Then kiss the Top Rank fighters goodbye,from now on they will all be fighting in Texas
              What does that even mean? Every Top Rank fighter takes PED's? Does Arum personally inject each fighter himself?

              Whats wrong with Texas anyway? Nobody wants it in Las Vegas except the casinos and because of that nobody is able to see the fight live, except rich people betting on the fight.

              You bring it to texas and the average joe can afford to see the fight and not pay $1000 to sit in the highest row

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                #87
                Originally posted by yevskiy426
                Yes far more effective but also far more irrational. USADA has thier rules such as the fighters must provide thier whereabouts at all times and test can be perform anytime. But an undercard fighter cannot pay for these kinds of test that costs thousands. If they do make blood testing mandatory then it will most likely be 3 times; beginning of camp, middle and after the fight
                I agree, it's just not plausible for it to be installed into all of boxing, but we can't complain if they save it for just the big fights - it's still better than nothing.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by yevskiy426
                  You have a point, i think they will make it nessacery for only big title fights like Mannys Vs FLoyd and thats pretty much it. No way a contending fighter can afford these test and NSAC are definatly not paying for it
                  Agree on the bold!

                  Now for the haters...

                  I'm sure someone will ask me about my stand on the testing (I can see it comin'.

                  LOL of course I'm all for better testing, but ask the commision of what they prefer hahaha.

                  Shane openly spoke about if Pacquiao and him will fight he won't ask OST. Looks like Floyd's all alone in cleaning the sport, but at least the commisions are doin's something and he's just lucky to be at the right place=right time.

                  What a prick to be credited for something like this, but I'll laugh hard when commisions amend their testings ONLY for Pac-Floyd fight if ever it gets done, then after that back to normal!

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
                    Agree on the bold!

                    Now for the haters...

                    I'm sure someone will ask me about my stand on the testing (I can see it comin'.

                    LOL of course I'm all for better testing, but ask the commision of what they prefer hahaha.

                    Shane openly spoke about if Pacquiao and him will fight he won't ask OST. Looks like Floyd's all alone in cleaning the sport, but at least the commisions are doin's something and he's just lucky to be at the right place=right time.

                    What a prick to be credited for something like this, but I'll laugh hard when commisions amend their testings ONLY for Pac-Floyd fight if ever it gets done, then after that back to normal!
                    lol we all know hes not cleaning up the sport, he dont give a **** about other fighters except himself. The only fighters he wants tested are the fighters fighting him. Plus him asking for testing wasnt to clean up the sport otherwise he wouldnt have caved in and allowed a 14 day cutoff in the testing

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
                      LOL of course I'm all for better testing, but ask the commision of what they prefer hahaha.
                      What does it matter what the commission prefers? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they'd rather opt for the cheaper option (proven by their contentness to drift by doing the absolute minimum for however long it's been now). But now that Mayweather has publicised the issue of anti-doping in boxing and kicked up a storm they have no choice but to upgrade or suffer the PR hits.

                      Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
                      Shane openly spoke about if Pacquiao and him will fight he won't ask OST. Looks like Floyd's all alone in cleaning the sport, but at least the commisions are doin's something and he's just lucky to be at the right place=right time.
                      I don't think it's luck. He started the steroids stink and, as you pointed out, campaigned for better testing virtually alone, so I think it's only fair to give him a large portion of credit for the changes that are seemingly on the horizon.

                      Originally posted by Tamis_Siensya
                      What a prick to be credited for something like this, but I'll laugh hard when commisions amend their testings ONLY for Pac-Floyd fight if ever it gets done, then after that back to normal!
                      Prick or not, he deserves his credit as he's the only one who had the acumen and initiate to actually push this issue. If the commission are only complying for a one-off money grab then that's on them and no reason to laugh IMO.

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