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  • #91
    Originally posted by S.G. View Post
    What does it matter what the commission prefers? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they'd rather opt for the cheaper option (proven by their contentness to drift by doing the absolute minimum for however long it's been now). But now that Mayweather has publicised the issue of anti-doping in boxing and kicked up a storm they have no choice but to upgrade or suffer the PR hits.


    I don't think it's luck. He started the steroids stink and, as you pointed out, campaigned for better testing virtually alone, so I think it's only fair to give him a large portion of credit for the changes that are seemingly on the horizon.


    Prick or not, he deserves his credit as he's the only one who had the acumen and initiate to actually push this issue. If the commission are only complying for a one-off money grab then that's on them and no reason to laugh IMO.
    The only thing is that in almost every sport, drug testing was put in place after the leagues were pressured into doings so and had prove the people were using.....

    Look at baseball for example, its PED testing onlt started in 2004 but obviouslt player had been using for decades before that. So they ran a test to see the extent of steriod use in baseball and caught 104 people on the juice and used that statistic to prove that testing was nessecery. In boxing however there is no rampid drug use like there was in Baseball and the commision i dont think will implement such test on one mans hunch.....plus fighter who are using can justgo to another one of the 49 states to fight and probably will because you have to be a moron to get caught with OST

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    • #92
      Originally posted by yevskiy426 View Post
      The only thing is that in almost every sport, drug testing was put in place after the leagues were pressured into doings so and had prove the people were using.....

      Look at baseball for example, its PED testing onlt started in 2004 but obviouslt player had been using for decades before that. So they ran a test to see the extent of steriod use in baseball and caught 104 people on the juice and used that statistic to prove that testing was nessecery. In boxing however there is no rampid drug use like there was in Baseball and the commision i dont think will implement such test on one mans hunch.....plus fighter who are using can justgo to another one of the 49 states to fight and probably will because you have to be a moron to get caught with OST
      How do you know this?

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      • #93
        Everytime Floyd tried to accomidate Pac, Pac just had a new excuse. It went from he doesnt want the USADA to do the testing to he doesnt want to be tested up before the fight to Floyd doesnt make the rules and its all on principle.

        They hoped that if they delayed the fight until the fall this would all just go away. But if Nevada implements stricter testing we will be hearing more about how Texas is such a great place to fight from Pac's camp.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by S.G. View Post
          What does it matter what the commission prefers? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that they'd rather opt for the cheaper option (proven by their contentness to drift by doing the absolute minimum for however long it's been now). But now that Mayweather has publicised the issue of anti-doping in boxing and kicked up a storm they have no choice but to upgrade or suffer the PR hits.


          I don't think it's luck. He started the steroids stink and, as you pointed out, campaigned for better testing virtually alone, so I think it's only fair to give him a large portion of credit for the changes that are seemingly on the horizon.


          Prick or not, he deserves his credit as he's the only one who had the acumen and initiate to actually push this issue. If the commission are only complying for a one-off money grab then that's on them and no reason to laugh IMO.
          I get you mate!

          I'll laugh off at how money talks over better testing that is...

          Yes Floyd deserved credit, but not the full of it, why? Because it's as if he ran his mouth anywhere he found a venue as if discrediting a fighter (Pac and Shane) If he was then serious about all of this then he should have at least called out the commision to change the testing, hell he don't even need petition to NSAC, just the usual run of his mouth about commisions for better testing, what he only had was an offer of OST to a fighter, that's about it.

          Definitely give credit where due, but not the totality of it...

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          • #95
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            How do you know this?
            What i meant is its not obvious like it was in baseball where you have guys breaking record considered almost unbeatable left and right. I meant to say there is no su****ion like that in boxing

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            • #96
              Originally posted by elfag View Post
              Everytime Floyd tried to accomidate Pac, Pac just had a new excuse. It went from he doesnt want the USADA to do the testing to he doesnt want to be tested up before the fight to Floyd doesnt make the rules and its all on principle.

              They hoped that if they delayed the fight until the fall this would all just go away. But if Nevada implements stricter testing we will be hearing more about how Texas is such a great place to fight from Pac's camp.
              Pacs has been saying they want texas for a while now.... but you mentioned the testing up before the fight...what if the day before the fight he is required to give a urine sample and cant produce any urine because he is triying to make weight and now has to dink a gallon of water to give enugh urine for the test and because of that doesnt make weight?

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Stuey's Revenge View Post
                Yes they are speaking on his behalf. A lot of people arent fond of needles. So what??
                yeahhhhh, those people probly don't go around tatting themselves up though.....

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by BuckToothed View Post
                  Fair enough, but if Manny accepts the drug testing and Floyd prices himself out with a 60/40 or higher, would you also admit that he is ducking?
                  yes i will admit that would be very wrong of floyd. i even just tweeted him and told him to keep the 50/50 split haha.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by M.I.C. View Post
                    Its simple Mayweather won this battle because he took the high ground. It was always clear to me that when it comes 2 blood testing Floyd was morally right and Pac morally wrong. Floyd's a smart dude
                    As much as I would like to take this stance, I just can't. I believe the blood test reason was nothing more than a means to get into Pacquiao's head and was initially just "talk". It took a life of its own and grew into something huge. I don't believe Floyd ever intended to have this get this big. Do he or his crew ever give various reasons for the testing? Same words all the time. Scripted. Boring.

                    But hey, if it comes about that blood testing is done then it's not a bad thing, but I won't give Floyd all the credit in the world. He pushed a boulder that originally intended to only remain on top of the hill, instead it began to roll downhill. Nothing more.

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                    • I'm almost certain nothing will come out of this. Nsac are just paying lip service to the cynics and making noises like they are listening.

                      New York boxing commission made a study too in blood testing but nothing has come of it.

                      If blood testing is introduced by NSAC then it's great, all fights and fighters will be treated equally and no more excuses in nevada.

                      It's all down to money, will it be economically viable for such State to make such an introduction? It's well known that the majority of boxing comissions worldwide do not have random blood testing, due to the possibility in losing hosting fights to other commission that may not have the said requirements.

                      I'm sure NSAC are weighing up their options but it doesn't seem like they have one unfortunately.
                      Last edited by Blubba; 04-30-2010, 09:56 AM.

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