Comments Thread For: WBC Forbids Mexican Boxers To Fight in The State of Arizona

[Drive Slow]

Please tell me why we need a law for it to be illegal to be an illegal immagrant? Like the person above me said you can't just be pulled over for being mexican. If there's a traffic stop sure they may ask for papers, but why is it absurd to prove your hear legally? I feel for people who want to be here for our freedom, I do, but do it legally. Personally I think it's crazy people have to pay crazy amounts just to get here. I wish I was rich so I could help them. No one should have to pay to be a citizen. All they should need is a love for freedom and a desire to help America and continue the American dream. I love Mexicans, serouisly. I love how much they love family, love their faith, and most of all I love their women. But serouisly if I stole food foor my starving family would the case be thrown out? No it wouldn't. The saddest thing is the fact that Mexico has harder immigration laws and yet were being ripped for supporting the law. I love Mexicans, but not more than I love law abiding citizens.

Just to be clear I'm not the biggest fan of how this law works. Personally I think it should be more focused on business getting in trouble for hiring illegals because if you take away the jobs you take away the reason to come. I blame **********s for this as they love cheap labor and aren't willing to address it.

It's not necessarily that it is an absurd thing to do; but rather the manner in which it is being done is discriminatory and will give way to numerous law suits. If the police were required to ask everyone each time they conducted a stop regardless of race, age, disabilities etc. to prove that they are here legally; then everything would be okay it would just be a nuisance, but a nuisance to everyone. What this law aims to do is target a certain group and this is where it becomes discriminatory and unconstitutional.

[btdavis22]

Where are all these people being racially profiled?

I have lived all over the country from Boston to Miami to KC to LA to South Texas now. I nor anyone in my family or friends have ever had this problem. If you are being profiled you should take a hard look at your situation and seriously think about leaving where ever you are staying.

I also have no problem with profiling at certain things. I would prefer that airports profiled rather then randomly searching a 6 year old kid. Not may of them doing anything illegal.

[pacmanis1]

Again El Salvador doesn't seem to have an immigration but America does, ask yourself why? JOBS,JOBS AND JOBS and who exactly is providing these low wage jobs, American companies...we can get rich off the backs of illegals but when they decide to stay now it's a problem, this is a human rights violation and again is unconstitutional and not even in the state constitution. I know because I'm the "random" check at the airport.

I actually updated my post to address this. I'm conservative but I'll admit the biggest problem is **********s who want cheap labor. I'll admit we should be targeting companies who employ the illegals because their creating the incentive to come here. If we took away the jobs there'd be no reason to be here. To be perfectly honest I'm so conservative that I have no problem with open boarders. I don't think it's up to the government to decide who should be here. If you want to be here and improve America and yourself, fine by me. My problem is the welfare state we live in, but that's another thread for another time. All I'm saying is isn't shouldn't be crazy to make sure laws are actually enforced, and lets face it, shouldn't it be illegal to be here illegally?

[mrjoeblive]

You guys do realized Bush made over 500billion deficit in 8 yrs, while ***** did over 2 thrillion deficit in 1 year!!! Enjoy your $$$ value go down the drain.
Why is everyone crying about racist everytime something they dont agree on. Remember 70% Arizonians (mostly hispanics) supports this law!!! you guys are work of art.

Now i know for a fact you are a ********** lunatic. first, bush in 3 years erased a 400 billion dollar surplus. then he took us into two wars that have yet to be paid for. then theres the tax cuts for the uber rich that were never covered by the **********s or the tea baggers. and the medicare medicine cuts that were never paid for. these gaffes still are adding to the deficit. and you want to put this crap on *****? you are deluded. bush cost millions of jobs. mr ***** is trying to keep this country from going into a full depression. but you just want to try to sink this man that has done more for working people than bush ever has. how do you know 70% of az's support this law? people all over are going to boycott az for this joke of a law.

[mrjoeblive]

except for the " 8 Street Latinas"

LOL your wrong for that one.( i love them)

[switchsouthpaw]

I am Latino and they have a higher percentage then any other group for being here illegally. If a car is stopped and the person can not speak a lick of english then that in my book is reason to ask for papers. I wish all border states would pass laws like this then maybe there would be less of a problem.

If the jobs are so desirable by the illegal immigrants the companies should just move to Mexico, China or where ever. Be rid of them for good. I see illegals every single day and for the most part they are good people I have no problem with the people its just the way they come here that bothers me.

These companies wouldn't go to Mexico, the NAFTA program is a great example of that, these companies also wouldn't benefit from tax shelters and incentives that various states provide, so they opt to employ illegals instead. At&t can outsource American jobs for slave wages. Walmart can offer products for lower prices because a lot of these products are manufactured in third world countries, again for slave wages, but it seems as if that is acceptable to *************.

[Drive Slow]

I am Latino and they have a higher percentage then any other group for being here illegally. If a car is stopped and the person can not speak a lick of english then that in my book is reason to ask for papers. I wish all border states would pass laws like this then maybe there would be less of a problem.

If the jobs are so desirable by the illegal immigrants the companies should just move to Mexico, China or where ever. Be rid of them for good. I see illegals every single day and for the most part they are good people I have no problem with the people its just the way they come here that bothers me.

I am African-American and they have a higher percentage than any other group for dealing drugs; but there is no law that gives police the right to single-out and treat all African-Americans as supposed drug dealers. The United States doesn't require anyone to speak English and there are citizens here that are illiterate but that doesn't correlate to them being here illegally. This law would be good if the police were required on each and every traffic stop, regardless of who is inside of the vehicle, to ask for documentation each and every time. But the law as it stands targets one particular group (latinos) and opens the door for widespread racial profiling.

[switchsouthpaw]

I actually updated my post to address this. I'm conservative but I'll admit the biggest problem is **********s who want cheap labor. I'll admit we should be targeting companies who employ the illegals because their creating the incentive to come here. If we took away the jobs there'd be no reason to be here. To be perfectly honest I'm so conservative that I have no problem with open boarders. I don't think it's up to the government to decide who should be here. If you want to be here and improve America and yourself, fine by me. My problem is the welfare state we live in, but that's another thread for another time. All I'm saying is isn't shouldn't be crazy to make sure laws are actually enforced, and lets face it, shouldn't it be illegal to be here illegally?

I live in South Florida and for the life of me can't figure out why Cubans vote **********, traitors to their own cause. These wack jobs just think they are white, they are deluding themselves because I can't tell the difference between them and the guy who mows my lawn, and they prefer to cast national votes predicated on social issues rather that federal issues...the word "dumb" comes to mind. I'm not sure I'd describe the US as a group of welfare states. I believe in welfare reform, there has to be a means to end, but compassion for those in poverty does not always equate to welfare.

[mrjoeblive]

It's being challenged by a higher court and isn't in the state constitution, much less the federal constitution. ************* tend to circumvent the constitution in order to enforce "social" policies, either way eff Arizona and I wouldn't spend a dime there and no I'm not Mexican, but this new policy is taking an us versus them approach and it's the wrong approach to take. This is about preserving what ************* view as "American" culture, apart from a common language, if you asked them to define "American Culture" they would offer you blank stares in return, because they can't define it appropriately.

yo switch, damn good post my friend!!!!!!!!!!!

[pacmanis1]

It's not necessarily that it is an absurd thing to do; but rather the manner in which it is being done is discriminatory and will give way to numerous law suits. If the police were required to ask everyone each time they conducted a stop regardless of race, age, disabilities etc. to prove that they are here legally; then everything would be okay it would just be a nuisance, but a nuisance to everyone. What this law aims to do is target a certain group and this is where it becomes discriminatory and unconstitutional.

I'll completely agree with you. I agree it's the wrong way to adress the problem. I think we should target the people who employ the illegals. To be honest I am open to open boarders. If you want a better life come on over and get it. And your right in a way it is discriminatory. But what percent of illegals are Mexicans? Serousily that's a question I would like an answer to but I can't help but imagine it is a majority hispanic. But if a bank was robbed and the person was 5'7 with long hair and you matched that description would you be annoyed with being questioned? Yeah you would but what do you expect? You match the description but can prove it wasn't you. Shouldn't you be happy the police are doing their job? Personally I believe Mexicans have better morals than most Americans. Sorry America but most of Mexico is good people. I don't agree with the law per say, but it's happy to see the laws enforced.