Sugar Ray Leonard: Tough To Go Against Mayweather (Video)

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Leonard really didn't pick anyone...I would guess he's favoring Floyd tho...

[daggum]

youre a funny dude. Nevermind that prime Benitez was only 21. Nevermind that Duran came up from a million weight classes lower while SRL was in his 1st class and was a Huge WW and nevermind that Duran beat him the 1st time. Nevermind that Hearns was beating dat ass the whole fight before his weak chin couldnt hold up. Stop hating man. Look, SRL is a legend so I will never argue his greatness but you make the mistake that alot of others do and that is judging a WW SRL against a WW Floyd even though its Floyd's 4th class & SRLs 1st and he was a huge WW.

You look at them at WW and think SRL kills Floyd but thats not fair to judge that way. You should judge them in a P4P sense and you are a fool if you think a SFW Mayweather cant hang with a WW SRL. Give the man his props. A SFW Mayweather more than holds his own against SRL wether you want to admit it or not and Floyd himself was also fighting monsters like an undefeated Chico when he was 23 which no one does nowdays so dont make it sound like Floyd is so inferior. Stop that hate, man

i apologize i wasn't trying to compare entire careers but just welterweight careers and such. i know mayweather has won belts in a lot of divisions and deserves much respect. i'm comparing mayweathers 5 year career at welterweight to leonard's 5 year career at welterweight.

leonard started his pro career in 1977-

he fought 9 top ten ranked welterweights(besides the superfights)-floyd mayweather, randy shields, armando muniz, johnny gant, adolfo viruet, pete ranzany, andy price, davey green, and bruce finch and knocked out 7 of them.

he then knocked out 38-0 prime wilfred benitez for the wbc title

he then fought prime roberto duran who had just dominated former welterweight champ carlos palomino. leonard lost this fight(what a bum)

he then fought roberto duran again and won via tko

he then knocked out undefeated #1 ranked 154 champion ayub kalule for the wba belt as a tune up for thomas hearns

he then knocked out a prime undefeated thomas hearns in a unification fight for the wba/wbc belts

sugar ray leonard did all this in a 5 year period from 1977-1982 and retired temporarily before the age of 26. he came back to beat hagler and stuff but who cares.



mayweather started his welterweight career in 2005-

he fought 2 top ten ranked welterweights during that time-zab judah, carlos baldomir and knocked out none of them

he fought former 140 pound champ 35 year old sharmba mitchell and won via knockout

he fought champion (43-9-6) 35 year old carlos baldomir for the linear welterweight championship and won via UD

he fought current 140 pound champion and former 147 beltholder ricky hatton and won via knockout

he fought current 135 pound champion 36 year old juan manuel marquez and won via UD

he fought 6th rated 154 pound wbc beltholder 35 year old oscar delahoya and won via split decision.

floyd mayweather did all this in a 5 year period from 2005-2010.

2 very very close resumes during their prime years and you can't really go wrong with either one. me personally i would pick floyd cause he is still gonna add on to the greateness he already has laid down.

[intoccabile]

i apologize i wasn't trying to compare entire careers but just welterweight careers and such. i know mayweather has won belts in a lot of divisions and deserves much respect. i'm comparing mayweathers 5 year career at welterweight to leonard's 5 year career at welterweight.

leonard started his pro career in 1977-

he fought 9 top ten ranked welterweights(besides the superfights)-floyd mayweather, randy shields, armando muniz, johnny gant, adolfo viruet, pete ranzany, andy price, davey green, and bruce finch and knocked out 7 of them.

he then knocked out 38-0 prime wilfred benitez for the wbc title

he then fought prime roberto duran who had just dominated former welterweight champ carlos palomino. leonard lost this fight(what a bum)

he then fought roberto duran again and won via tko

he then knocked out undefeated #1 ranked 154 champion ayub kalule for the wba belt as a tune up for thomas hearns

he then knocked out a prime undefeated thomas hearns in a unification fight for the wba/wbc belts

sugar ray leonard did all this in a 5 year period from 1977-1982 and retired temporarily before the age of 26. he came back to beat hagler and stuff but who cares.



mayweather started his welterweight career in 2005-

he fought 2 top ten ranked welterweights during that time-zab judah, carlos baldomir and knocked out none of them

he fought former 140 pound champ 35 year old sharmba mitchell and won via knockout

he fought champion (43-9-6) 35 year old carlos baldomir for the linear welterweight championship and won via UD

he fought current 140 pound champion and former 147 beltholder ricky hatton and won via knockout

he fought current 135 pound champion juan manuel marquez and won via UD

he fought 6th rated wbc beltholder 35 year old oscar delahoya and won via split decision.

floyd mayweather did all this in a 5 year period from 2005-2010.

2 very very close resumes during their prime years and you can't really go wrong with either one. me personally i would pick floyd cause he is still gonna add on to the greateness he already has laid down.

Just knowing what leonards opponents went on and did though, and him fighting that level of comp so close to each other speaks volumes IMO.

There is an argument for all of floyds wins. It's like.. floyd beat ranked men but how good were they really? You know? Baldimor is a good example.. judah is another. Judah's skill level is brilliant, i love him. But his heart is awful, i hate him. haha

[DLT]

i apologize i wasn't trying to compare entire careers but just welterweight careers and such. i know mayweather has won belts in a lot of divisions and deserves much respect. i'm comparing mayweathers 5 year career at welterweight to leonard's 5 year career at welterweight.

leonard started his pro career in 1977-

he fought 9 top ten ranked welterweights(besides the superfights)-floyd mayweather, randy shields, armando muniz, johnny gant, adolfo viruet, pete ranzany, andy price, davey green, and bruce finch and knocked out 7 of them.

he then knocked out 38-0 prime wilfred benitez for the wbc title

he then fought prime roberto duran who had just dominated former welterweight champ carlos palomino. leonard lost this fight(what a bum)

he then fought roberto duran again and won via tko

he then knocked out undefeated #1 ranked 154 champion ayub kalule for the wba belt as a tune up for thomas hearns

he then knocked out a prime undefeated thomas hearns in a unification fight for the wba/wbc belts

sugar ray leonard did all this in a 5 year period from 1977-1982 and retired temporarily before the age of 26. he came back to beat hagler and stuff but who cares.



mayweather started his welterweight career in 2005-

he fought 2 top ten ranked welterweights during that time-zab judah, carlos baldomir and knocked out none of them

he fought former 140 pound champ 35 year old sharmba mitchell and won via knockout

he fought champion (43-9-6) 35 year old carlos baldomir for the linear welterweight championship and won via UD

he fought current 140 pound champion and former 147 beltholder ricky hatton and won via knockout

he fought current 135 pound champion 36 year old juan manuel marquez and won via UD

he fought 6th rated 154 pound wbc beltholder 35 year old oscar delahoya and won via split decision.

floyd mayweather did all this in a 5 year period from 2005-2010.

2 very very close resumes during their prime years and you can't really go wrong with either one. me personally i would pick floyd cause he is still gonna add on to the greateness he already has laid down.

sarcasm isnt funny if you do it in every single post. Switch it up sometimes, the **** is corny

[intoccabile]

sarcasm isnt funny if you do it in every single post. Switch it up sometimes, the **** is corny

i thought he was being serious, lol.

I don't know how he can compare the 2 resumes he posted, but, aye, just to keep the debate clean it doesn't hurt to run with it haha.

[daggum]

sarcasm isnt funny if you do it in every single post. Switch it up sometimes, the **** is corny

im just trying to give an honest breakdown between 2 all time great fighters so people can compare them side by side. leonard and mayweather are 2 nip and tuck fighters each who made their historic mark on the sport. here is another similarity between the two i found.

leonard retired for 2 years because of a detached retina. some say that was just a convenient way of avoiding the tough challengers like donald curry, mike mccallum and a thomas hearns rematch. floyd retired for 2 years and many say that was just to avoid the tough challengers like margarito, cotto, and paul williams.

when leonard did come back he faced fringe contender kevin howard and looked terrible being knocked down for the first time. leonard said he didn't have it anymore and retired for 3 more years. when mayweather came back he fought the p4p number 2 fighter in the world and easily outclassed him proving he still had it.

leonard eventually did come back for an epic fight moving up 2 divisions against the middleweight champion 32 year old marvin hagler. floyd came back and is fighting the 38 year old welterweight champion shane mosley. some people thought the 32 year old hagler was already on the slide when ray fought him. is the 38 year old mosley on the slide? will there be a controversial decision just like hagler-leonard? all these questions will be answered and no matter what happens i hope neither guy quits boxing and becomes an actor in france if they don't like the decision.

[illmatickid]

The funny thing is

when they talk about this being as big or even bigger than Leonard - Hearns is
that
stylistically Floyd is more like Ray leonard and Mosley is more like Thomas Hearns haha, but Mosley is the "sugar" in this case only nickname wise.. stylistically floyd is alot more like ray leonard than mosley

[poeticlsykuac]

Being talented and being great are two different things.

Talented is Floyd,
Great is
MAB who fought everyone.
Morales who fought everyone.
Lewis who fought everyone.
DLH who fought everyone.
Mosley who fought everyone.
Hopkins who fought everyone.
Trinidad who fought everyone.
Tszyu who fought everyone.
Holyfield who fought everyone.
JMM who fought everyone.
Pacman who fights everyone.
All fighters of his generation.

Floyd avoided everyone who was a contender at ww and that is the problem. Beating a past prime Gatti or a overrated Hatton isn't impressive. Baldomir, Judah, are you kidding me? Floyd stopped fighting great fighters at 135. Cotto, P-Will, Marg, Mosley, he could have left no question marks behind instead he fights a past prime Mosley. Do I think he would have beat all of those fighters? Yup, but he didn't which puts his greatness in question. Part of fulfilling Greatness is fighting everyone, leaving no question marks behind.

If you are comparing SRL and Mayweather's resume and give any love to Mayweather's resume at 147 you are not a very well educated boxing fan.

[gqjohnb]

one day you are going to have to give the man some credit wether you like it or not. If he beats Shane you should start but you wont. If he beats Shane & Pac then you have no choice or you will just look bad

Naw I can't conceive a scenario that will make this dude give Mayweather credit but it doesn't matter though. You can't please everybody.

[gqjohnb]

The funny thing is

when they talk about this being as big or even bigger than Leonard - Hearns is
that
stylistically Floyd is more like Ray leonard and Mosley is more like Thomas Hearns haha, but Mosley is the "sugar" in this case only nickname wise.. stylistically floyd is alot more like ray leonard than mosley

Yeah...I don't really like how they compare this to Leonard v. Hearns. You really can't compare WW division at all to those times. I don't necessarily mean that in a bad way its just different. The WW division today is composed of guys in their 3rd plus division at WW and back then it was guys in their first division at WW more or less so they were a lot bigger.