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  • Dick Buffman
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
    At FW? Really? Caballero has done nothing at 126!!!!
    He just beat Yordan. And he's got cache coming up from being champ at 22 for so long.

    Yordan>>Mtagwa

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    • Ch@mpBox@PR
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      #22
      Originally posted by Zarco
      Beating a peak prime Margarito that got his title from a knee win over peak prime undefeated Cotto>>>>Beating a faded Cotto that got his title by beating Michael Jennings.
      Why you Keep leaving Clottey out of the equeation?

      And you cant get other guys accolades, remember that Shane lost to that same Cotto!!!

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      • Ch@mpBox@PR
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        #23
        Originally posted by Rich_Loc
        He just beat Yordan. And he's got cache coming up from being champ at 22 for so long.

        Yordan>>Mtagwa
        And thats ridiculous. A guy needs to fight in that specific division to be ranked.

        Or will you Rank Martinez #1 @ SMW because he is the champ at MW?

        Gambo Beat, Garcia, Rojas, Mtagwa and Barros who was as undefeated as Yourdaan!

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        • Dick Buffman
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          #24
          Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
          And thats ridiculous. A guy needs to fight in that specific division to be ranked.

          Or will you Rank Martinez #1 @ SMW because he is the champ at MW?

          Gambo Beat, Garcia, Rojas, Mtagwa and Barros who was as undefeated as Yourdaan!
          Not necessarily. When guys move up from the division right above or beneath them, they get credit if they're ranked at 1 or 2.

          When Manny moved up to 140 from 135, did you expect him to be ranked #10?

          Of course not.

          Or how about when Cotto moved up from 40 to 47'.

          As for Martinez, hell yeah I would rank him highly.

          I don't need him to fight some chump at 54' to know he's the best guy there.

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          • Ch@mpBox@PR
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            #25
            Originally posted by Rich_Loc
            Not necessarily. When guys move up from the division right above or beneath them, they get credit if they're ranked at 1 or 2.

            When Manny moved up to 140 from 135, did you expect him to be ranked #10?

            Of course not.

            Or how about when Cotto moved up from 40 to 47'.

            As for Martinez, hell yeah I would rank him highly.

            I don't need him to fight some chump at 54' to know he's the best guy there.
            1.Did Manny beat the lineal Champ or not?
            2.Did Cotto beat a top 10 WW when he moved up or not?

            You just cant get higly ranked in one division, because you did good in another one. Thats ridiculous!!

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              #26
              Originally posted by Rich_Loc
              Not necessarily. When guys move up from the division right above or beneath them, they get credit if they're ranked at 1 or 2.

              When Manny moved up to 140 from 135, did you expect him to be ranked #10?

              Of course not.

              Or how about when Cotto moved up from 40 to 47'.

              As for Martinez, hell yeah I would rank him highly.

              I don't need him to fight some chump at 54' to know he's the best guy there.
              And anyways like I said


              Gambo Beat, Garcia, Rojas, Mtagwa and Barros who was as undefeated as Yourdan

              Gamboa>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Caballero at FW

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              • Dick Buffman
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                #27
                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                1.Did Manny beat the lineal Champ or not?
                2.Did Cotto beat a top 10 WW when he moved up or not?

                You just cant get higly ranked in one division, because you did good in another one. Thats ridiculous!!
                I'm talking about when they moved up. Before they fought anyone at the new weight.

                They came into the new weight divisions ranked highly based on the merits of their work in the division right below.

                I respect your rankings up and down the board when you post them, but you always leave Caballero out unfairly and its only because of the Juanma thing.

                I think you have it out for Caba.

                Admit it.

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                • Dave Rado
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
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                  Arreola isn't in your top 10 Heavyweight contenders, and he injured his hand in the fifth round against Adamek. Without the injury it's by no means certain that Adamek would have won. Given all that, I don't see how a win over Arreola is enough to propel Adamek into your top 5 Heavyweight contenders.

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                  • Dick Buffman
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    Arreola isn't in your top 10 Heavyweight contenders, and he injured his hand in the fifth round against Adamek. Without the injury it's by no means certain that Adamek would have won. Given all that, I don't see how a win over Arreola is enough to propel Adamek into your top 5 Heavyweight contenders.
                    I'm assuming he got dropped out of the top 10 as a direct result of his latest loss to a guy he outweighed by 30 pounds.

                    Adamek dominated the fight, so I don't see why he shouldn't be a top 5 hw.

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                    • El_Cazador
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Plato
                      I'm talking about when they moved up. Before they fought anyone at the new weight.

                      They came into the new weight divisions ranked highly based on the merits of their work in the division right below.

                      I respect your rankings up and down the board when you post them, but you always leave Caballero out unfairly and its only because of the Juanma thing.

                      I think you have it out for Caba.

                      Admit it.
                      Na, I dont hate him. I had him ranked #1 at SBW. But in no way shape or form he should be ranked higher than 8 at FW, let alone over Gamboa

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