Doug Fischer: "Floyd doesn't have the size and range as Winky or Forrest"

[Walt Liquor]

I think its an excellent and legitimate take, he may not be right and it may not work out that way, but he shouldn't be shi tted on for his educated opinion. I agree with him by the way, but I can see the fight playing out differently as well.

Doug makes a great point about Margarito-Mosley. Margs fares best against aggressive fighters, boxer punches and brawlers. Many people on this site have said they see Shane as a brawler or comeforward pressure fighter, which would make him TAILOR MADE FOR MARGS!!!!!

I guarantee you that 90% of you who are shi tting on shanes win vs margs weren't saying how margs is tailor made for shane before the fight.

[Walt Liquor]

I understand that.

Fischer brings up the 4 losses against great rangy boxers like Vernon and Winky, but he doesn't go into detail about what exactly happened in the Cotto fight.

I understand that floyd isn't willing to mix it up(physically) like a Miguel Cotto would at this point, but Dougie should have brought that up as well. Him not mentioning Cotto makes me believe he thought it would detract from his main point(Winky and Vernon being lengthy boxers with strong physical presences)

he was answering a specific question that's why he left cotto out. he was answering a writer that specifically brought up those two fighters

[Walt Liquor]

Good post was about to say the same.. all 3 had a decent jab (on the night) though..

I don't think size/range is the issue more if Mosley can take Mayweather to places he hasn't really been since Castillo 1 (i.e really under pressure to fight back)

snootz,

it's an informed initial post from the TS, doug write that as a response to a mailbag guest who wrote this:

There is a blue print for beating Mosley. There isn’t one for beating Money. I am surprised that someone with your boxing acumen doesn’t see that.

You remember what Vernon Forest did to Mosley? You will see a repeat of this, probably sans knockdowns. Mosley dominates fighters that stand in front of him, which is something Floyd won’t do for any extended period of time. The one rangy, disciplined fighter he did fight (Forest) he got dominated, twice. Winky was more defensive than rangy, but just as disciplined and he dominated Mosley, twice. Mosley never made adjustments in either fight and was dominated in the same fashion.

Nazzim Richardson is the wild card, but I don’t think that you can teach an old dog new tricks. Mosley is what he is, a very good fighter who isn’t quite elite against a certain disciplined style that his conquerors possessed, as does Floyd. The fight will be interest ing, but too much MONEY is always a good thing. -- Wiley

[JBell11]

I understand that.

Fischer brings up the 4 losses against great rangy boxers like Vernon and Winky, but he doesn't go into detail about what exactly happened in the Cotto fight.

I understand that floyd isn't willing to mix it up(physically) like a Miguel Cotto would at this point, but Dougie should have brought that up as well. Him not mentioning Cotto makes me believe he thought it would detract from his main point(Winky and Vernon being lengthy boxers with strong physical presences)

It's a "Half Truth" and as we all know "Half Truths" is no different from telling a "Whole Lie" lol

Shout out to Horus!!!

[King Jaffe Joffer]

This is pretty terrible.. Floyd vs Winky at 154 would have been very competitive. Floyd wouldnt be a sitting duck right in front of Winky all squared up. Im not saying Floyd would have won but it would have been more competitive.


Why is everyone magically forgetting Cotto boxed Mosleys ears off in a good fight? Floyd cant pot shot Shane, like Cotto did in the last 4 or 5 rounds?
Be serious...

[Walt Liquor]

This is pretty terrible.. Floyd vs Winky at 154 would have been very competitive. Floyd wouldnt be a sitting duck right in front of Winky all squared up. Im not saying Floyd would have won but it would have been more competitive.


Why is everyone magically forgetting Cotto boxed Mosleys ears off in a good fight? Floyd cant pot shot Shane, like Cotto did in the last 4 or 5 rounds?
Be serious...

shane outboxed cotto in the last rounds of that fight, just in case you were wondering.

[And Still]

I was about to say Floyd isnt about to get physical like Cotto. You gotta look at those 5 losses and analyze them, not just say he has 5 losses.

SOOOO, Shane lost four different ways?

Forrest - jab and rt hand power
Winky - southpaw jab and defense
Cotto - boxer/puncher; late round counterpuncher
Delahoya* - toe-to-toe slugout

Is that a vindication of Shane?...or an indictment?

[And Still]

shane outboxed cotto in the last rounds of that fight, just in case you were wondering.

You saw a different fight than I did.

[Ekscape]

I can't wait to read what Fisher has to say after Floyd wins... lol

[Doctor_Tenma]

Then again Cotto is 5'7 with a 67 reach. Mayweather is 5'8 with a 72 reach. Although Cotto is bigger then Floyd.