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  • Doug Fischer: "Floyd doesn't have the size and range as Winky or Forrest"

    From Doug Fischer's latest mailbag (Apr 28, 2010)

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    My “boxing acumen” (LOL) is the reason I’m picking Mosley to win. My prediction has nothing to with any disdain for Mayweather. If that were the case I would have picked someone else to beat him by now. But I haven’t. And that’s because I respect Mayweather’s skills (if not his careful self-management). It’s also because I respect Mosley.

    Yes, I remember well what Forrest and Wright did to Mosley (and I disagree that Shane didn't make adjustments in the rematches, which were more competitive than the first fights). I don't believe that Mayweather can do what they did. Not because I think Mayweather isn't as good as those two excellent boxers -- he's better in a pound-for-pound sense -- but because I don't think he's as big as they are and it's obvious that he has a different style.

    Mayweather does not have the range that the late Forrest had with his jab and he does not commit to his right hand the way the Viper did (nor does his right hand have the power Forrest's did). I do not believe that Mayweather is as effective at 147 pounds as Forrest was. I know Mayweather isn’t as effective at 154 pounds as Wright was, and neither was Mosley. Shane just found that out the hard way -- by actually getting in the ring with Winky. It says here that if Mayweather fought Wright at junior middleweight the same thing that happened to Molsey would have happened to him. Wright was way too big, strong and technically proficient for Mayweather to cope with. Mosley was durable and game enough to make their first bout competitive for five rounds. I don't even think Floyd could have done that.

    It's silly to compare Mayweather with these rangy 6-foot-tall technicians. It's even sillier to regurgitate Floyd's "There's-no-blueprint-to-beat-me" mantra. The blueprint is in his first fight with Jose Luis Castillo, a bout that he was lucky to win. It's in his victories over Zab Judah, Oscar De La Hoya, and even his knockout of Ricky Hatton. Floyd’s a defensive marvel but he’s not untouchable.

    If you don't have a sharp boxing mind, you won't see that fact, and if a fighter doesn't have a strong will and self belief he won't be able to take advantage of that fact.

    Contrary to popular thought, Mosley does have a sharp boxing mind (and trainer Naazim Richardson only enhances it). Mosley's will and self belief is as strong as any fighter who has ever laced on a pair of gloves. That‘s why I‘m picking him to win on Saturday.

    http://www.ringtv.com/blog/1868/doug...ather_mailbag/
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  • #2
    He does have better accuracy and timing.

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    • #3
      I guess Shane never fought Miguel Cotto.

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      • #4
        Comparing Floyd with Winky and the late Vernon's like apple and oranges.

        Like I said, Doug Fischer (like Ronnie Nathz but RN's way too huggin') are just another nuthugger as any other stans here, only difference is they're journalists.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Biolink View Post
          I guess Shane never fought Miguel Cotto.
          Good post was about to say the same.. all 3 had a decent jab (on the night) though..

          I don't think size/range is the issue more if Mosley can take Mayweather to places he hasn't really been since Castillo 1 (i.e really under pressure to fight back)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Biolink View Post
            I guess Shane never fought Miguel Cotto.
            I was about to say Floyd isnt about to get physical like Cotto. You gotta look at those 5 losses and analyze them, not just say he has 5 losses.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Zarco View Post
              I was about to say Floyd isnt about to get physical like Cotto. You gotta look at those 5 losses and analyze them, not just say he has 5 losses.
              I understand that.

              Fischer brings up the 4 losses against great rangy boxers like Vernon and Winky, but he doesn't go into detail about what exactly happened in the Cotto fight.

              I understand that floyd isn't willing to mix it up(physically) like a Miguel Cotto would at this point, but Dougie should have brought that up as well. Him not mentioning Cotto makes me believe he thought it would detract from his main point(Winky and Vernon being lengthy boxers with strong physical presences)

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              • #8
                Shane will rough floyd up


                Floyd is very frail

                If shane straightens his punches here floyds in trouble

                I like how ****m and shane were traning to throw shots through the shoulder roll right to the chest. Take the wind right out of his sails maybe break ribs.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sutekh uvdabrix View Post
                  Shane will rough floyd up


                  Floyd is very frail

                  If shane straightens his punches here floyds in trouble

                  I like how ****m and shane were traning to throw shots through the shoulder roll right to the chest. Take the wind right out of his sails maybe break ribs.

                  We just dont know what Floyds Game plan is or what hes been doing in his sparring sessions, Its important not to show to much on 24/7! Floyd will have probably seen a few things that he will tighten up from seeing mosley on 24/7

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                  • #10
                    Why do people say things like Floyd is frail? where do you get that impression from? The fact that he's been good enough to comfortably win over 95% of his fights?

                    Neither guy is a joke and I can see Floyd getting physcial like Cotto did if needs be, but the fact is he's usually too quick, elusive and skilled to HAVE to be physical like Cotto. As Hatton and Oscar said he's stronger than he looks.

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