I could not understand why so many picked Arreola .........

[Dynamite Kid]

I thought Adamek would be able to offset Arreola too, just not for the whole fight. I expected Arreola to impose himself on Adamek as the fight went on, which seemed to be happening until the combination of Arreola hurting his hand and Adamek switching gears happened.

Yeah thats fair.

I do think people underrated how good Adamek is at Boxing, sure he robotic and easy to hit but he is also more diverse than he gets credit for imo, i mean you dont beat Banks and Cunningham by being one dimensional.

Adamek can use his legs and speed, he can also pressure slick fighters by stalking them and making them lead and expend energy.

[Silencers]

Yeah thats fair.

I do think people underrated how good Adamek is at Boxing, sure he robotic and easy to hit but he is also more diverse than he gets credit for imo, i mean you dont beat Banks and Cunningham by being one dimensional.

Adamek can use his legs and speed, he can also pressure slick fighters by stalking them and making them lead and expend energy.

Adamek is quite a versatile fighter, he's showing his versatility with every fight. I think he should seriously be considered one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world right now.

[Dynamite Kid]

Adamek is quite a versatile fighter, he's showing his versatility with every fight. I think he should seriously be considered one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world right now.

Agree.

How do you see a Haye fight going?

[Silencers]

Agree.

How do you see a Haye fight going?

I think it's an even fight, I can see scenarios where both of them could win.

Haye's combination of speed and power would trouble Adamek quite a bit, I think part of why Estrada, Cunningham and even Banks to an extent managed to catch him was because of their speed and Adamek is quite open to right hands. I know he managed to get away from quite a few of Arreola's right hands but Arreola wings his right hand and performs what Bernard Hopkins calls the bow and arrow where he slings his arm back before he throws his right hand, Adamek saw most of those right hands coming, Haye throws them much faster and much sneakier.

Then again, Haye's own questionable defense and suspect punch resistance would give Adamek a pretty big advantage, even though he didn't really hurt Estrada or Arreola I think he has decent pop as a heavyweight and who knows what might happen if he connects on Haye's unproven heavyweight chin? I would expect Adamek to maybe stand his ground a bit more against Haye and put more power behind his shots, Adamek's body work could wear Haye down as well.

Either way, it would be a really good heavyweight fight. Personally I see it as being 50/50 right now.

[BritishBoxing92]

I could not understand why so many picked Arreola, when that fight was made my initial reaction was that Adamek would win, however when i came on here i was shocked at how many people were picking Arreola, so much so that i started to question myself and think maybe im way off base here, here is was what i posted about the fight anyway.

I like Adamek because i think he will use his legs & speed to win a decision. Adamek has shown good speed and in and out Boxing lately, most notably against Golota,Estrada.

Im gonna say Adamek by decision, Arreola is not a huge puncher so i dont see him changing the fight with one punch it will be accumulation of punches that does it for him, however i think he will need Adamek to be a more stationary target to get off consistently, and the only way that is going to happen is if Adamek gets dragged into a war.


Dont get me wrong i dont blame anyone for picking Arreola but i was a bit shocked how lopsided opinion was for him to win

i was hoping adamek would have won by KO..but MD is still arite

[Bring It On]

Me neither. My guess a mixture of the hype surrounding Arreola and lack of knowledge.

[Dynamite Kid]

[QUOTE=Silencers;8193563]I think it's an even fight, I can see scenarios where both of them could win.

Haye's combination of speed and power would trouble Adamek quite a bit, I think part of why Estrada, Cunningham and even Banks to an extent managed to catch him was because of their speed and Adamek is quite open to right hands. I know he managed to get away from quite a few of Arreola's right hands but Arreola wings his right hand and performs what Bernard Hopkins calls the bow and arrow where he slings his arm back before he throws his right hand, Adamek saw most of those right hands coming, Haye throws them much faster and much sneakier.

Agree, Adamek is definitely open to the right hand and does have a tendency to go straight back when it lands meaning there is room for another to land if you follow up, he did it against either Cunningham or Dawson if i recall. Adamek is definitely very hittable so yeah Haye's speed and power could take him out early if he was not careful.

the bow and arrow ?You mean what Jermain Taylor used to do, might still do, not sure if he has changed it.

Then again, Haye's own questionable defense and suspect punch resistance would give Adamek a pretty big advantage, even though he didn't really hurt Estrada or Arreola I think he has decent pop as a heavyweight and who knows what might happen if he connects on Haye's unproven heavyweight chin? I would expect Adamek to maybe stand his ground a bit more against Haye and put more power behind his shots, Adamek's body work could wear Haye down as well.

Either way, it would be a really good heavyweight fight. Personally I see it as being 50/50 right now.

Good call on the bodywork that could be a pivotal factor, i see Adamek giving Haye fits in the middle portion of the fight with his consistency if he can avoid getting knocked out early. I also think its 50/50 but im worried for Adamek early.

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[QUOTE=Dynamite Kid;8193604]

I think it's an even fight, I can see scenarios where both of them could win.



Agree, Adamek is definitely open to the right hand and does have a tendency to go straight back when it lands meaning there is room for another to land if you follow up, he did it against either Cunningham or Dawson if i recall. Adamek is definitely very hittable so yeah Hayes' speed and power could take him out early if he was not careful.

the bow and arrow ?You mean what Jermain Taylor used to do, might still do, not sure if he has changed it.

Yeah, Taylor still does it, just not as much as he used to.

Good call on the bodywork that could be a pivotal factor, i see Adamek giving Haye fits in the middle portion of the fight with his consistency if he can avoid getting knocked out early. I also think its 50/50 but im worried for Adamek early.

Consistency, workrate, stamina and toughness. Haye's workrate isn't the highest and if Adamek can force the pace he might wear down Haye and I think Adamek is the more durable, tougher fighter out of the two which could prove to be the difference down the stretch.

Early on is definitely the most dangerous time of the fight for Adamek, he has a very solid chin but can he take Haye's shots repeatedly? I doubt it, he can maybe take 1 or 2 flush but once they start accumulating, he'll start feeling them.

[TheGreatA]

They probably thought Arreola would turn up in great shape considering the talk he had been doing. Arreola seemed to run out of stamina and hurt his hand late in the fight. Adamek was not totally convincing to me but I thought the troubles he had were more due to balance issues than Arreola badly hurting him. He is not used to fighting while constantly backing up but he did it quite well.

[El 7 Mares V.2]

I picked Arreola because Adamek wasn't entirely convincing against Estrada, he didn't look like he dealt with the size and power of Estrada too well, he also got winded towards the end of the fight, Arreola is like a bigger, stronger, more powerful version of Estrada so I went with Arreola but Adamek obviously learned from the Estrada fight and fought a smarter fight against Arreola.

I do wonder what would have happened had Arreola not hurt his hands though, according to Arreola he was basically a one handed fighter from the 5th round on and basically a handless fighter in the last round so it would be interesting if they have a rematch.

I picked Arreola by mid to late KO, the times he landed those big right hands he had Adamek on spaghetti legs although he did hung in there and was able to shake off the cobwebs well, also the fact that each time he was hurt he threw back and never allowed Arreola to put a string of finishing touches when he had his man hurt, I was overall impressed with Adamek he fought a great fight. As far as Arreola hurting his hand, I don't know how much of that was a factor, he might have been exagerating a bit but nonetheless Adamak was dominant and I couldn't see Chris winning the fight except by a KO.