Casamayor- Kid Diamond a DRAW

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  • Bombardier
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    #41
    Bottom line is that I just can't have that much sympathy for a guy who makes so many mistakes and then has the decision go against him (or not even technically against him, in this case). I felt the same way after Tarver - Johnson...I had Tarver down as winning, but after all that running around and taking rounds off, I can't exactly feel sorry for the guy.

    It seems to me that a win in boxing should be earned. Maybe in pro football you can take a night off and still get the W but if it happens in boxing you should consider yourself lucky, and if it doesn't happen you shouldn't complain too much about it.

    btw for the hypocrite police I know that I've supported Hopkins when he took "nights off" in recent years but if he had somehow lost those fight in close decisions I wouldn't have blown my top about it.

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    • IwatchBoxing
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      #42

      Look at the photogallery, and read underneath this picture, I think they made a typo . (Casamayor fight, any picture)

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      • Dio2
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        #43
        Originally posted by mic573
        You never thought HBO was biased? You more than likely won't find a more biased crew anywhere else in boxing.
        Don't blow their bias out of proportion. Their bias is pretty subtle. There were several points in the fight where they mentioned that Casa was coming on and winning rounds. In addition Steward even said that he could see how the judges saw the fight as a draw. Lederman's scorecard was right in line with one of the tree judges scorecards. He was just on the far end of the KD spectrum. If you really want to see bias look at Sky sports telecasts with an British boxer involved.

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        • Tha Greatest
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          #44
          That was a bull**** decision....

          I could've won some money...

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          • mic573
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            #45
            Originally posted by Dio2
            Don't blow their bias out of proportion. Their bias is pretty subtle. There were several points in the fight where they mentioned that Casa was coming on and winning rounds. In addition Steward even said that he could see how the judges saw the fight as a draw. Lederman's scorecard was right in line with one of the tree judges scorecards. He was just on the far end of the KD spectrum. If you really want to see bias look at Sky sports telecasts with an British boxer involved.
            I don't think I'm blowing it out of proportion when they have a history of picking a fighter and focusing on nothing but him for most of the fight.

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            • Nautilus
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              #46
              Originally posted by IwatchBoxing
              http://sports.yahoo.com/box/gallery
              Look at the photogallery, and read underneath this picture, I think they made a typo . (Casamayor fight, any picture)
              CM Puertorican?

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              • Dio2
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                #47
                Originally posted by mic573
                I don't think I'm blowing it out of proportion when they have a history of picking a fighter and focusing on nothing but him for most of the fight.
                I'm not saying they aren't biased but if you have ever watched a Sky sports telecast when one of the boxers is British they are exponentially more biased than HBO. They make their fights sound like fairy tales for the British boxers. Also its not about HBO's reputation its about how biased they were for this fight. You can't deny that their commentary at the end of the fight included that they could understand that the fight was scored a draw.

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                • Manny_P
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                  #48
                  It was a robbery. Not a serious case of bein robbed, but a robbery nonetheless. Kid Diamond landed mo punches, and harder punches. He was controllin the fight and had Casamayor on the defense mode most times. Even wobbled Casa in few occasions.

                  Casamayor jest ran half to most of the fight. He got lucky wit the draw. Kid Diamond shoulda won. I dont think I can make a case where Casamayor would deserve the W.

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                  • mic573
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Dio2
                    I'm not saying they aren't biased but if you have ever watched a Sky sports telecast when one of the boxers is British they are exponentially more biased than HBO. They make their fights sound like fairy tales for the British boxers. Also its not about HBO's reputation its about how biased they were for this fight. You can't deny that their commentary at the end of the fight included that they could understand that the fight was scored a draw.
                    I couldn't really say because I missed thier commentary at the end but I'll take your word for it. Without Steward or Jones there both Lampley and Merchant would make it seem as though KD won by a landslide which Lampley tried to do during most of the fight.

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                    • Dio2
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by mic573
                      I couldn't really say because I missed thier commentary at the end but I'll take your word for it. Without Steward or Jones there both Lampley and Merchant would make it seem as though KD won by a landslide which Lampley tried to do during most of the fight.
                      I definitely agree with that Steward and Jones are typically the voice of reason. Has anbody else noticed that Merchant's comments are much worse than they were before. His analogies don't even seem to make sense anymore.

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