To all the Edwin Valero haters

[unforgotten]

Its funny to see how immature everyone is ... well most people are around here

[Tiozzo]

Just to remind people... here are some facts.

Ray Robinson beat his wife

Still considered the greatest P4P boxer.

Holyfield beat his wife.

Still considered one of the best HW ever, and a beloved one.

Everybody took for granted Gatti's wife killed him and hated on her until the truth eventually came out.

What I'm saying is, we don't know everything. This is a tragedy no doubt. But it is useless to curse a dead man.

[Tiozzo]

I still require people to take personal responsibility. People still have a choice in life. Regardless of his mental instabilities and substance abuse issues I still believe that Edwin Valero made the conscious decision to kill his own wife.

How do you know ? Silly.

[Hannibal Barca]

I don't give a **** about his "rough child hood", you can miss me with all that. He isn't the only person on the planet who's ever had it bad.

My mother is my heart, and my wife will be my soul. There's no way I can respect a man who beats his MOTHER, his SISTER, and beats and kills his WIFE.

I don't care how he rest.

[Hannibal Barca]

Just to remind people... here are some facts.

Ray Robinson beat his wife

Still considered the greatest P4P boxer.

Holyfield beat his wife.

Still considered one of the best HW ever, and a beloved one.

Everybody took for granted Gatti's wife killed him and hated on her until the truth eventually came out.

What I'm saying is, we don't know everything. This is a tragedy no doubt. But it is useless to curse a dead man.

Which one of them killed their wives? Which of them beat their mothers?

[unforgotten]

Which one of them killed their wives? Which of them beat their mothers?

When did we say it was ok?



Read the fkn OP idiot

[unforgotten]

Is everyone on this board brain dead? Read the fking OP

[Kobe B Bryant]

Talk about stating the obvious




But at what point did i say what he did was ok




Im saying understand why the hell this happened before opening your mouth

i don't care what happened to him before it happened.

he did what he did.

he's a piece of ****.

what happened to him beforehand is irrelevant.

people do evil things. those evil things don't always have to be explained , justified or excused.

[miron_lang]

Fk the haters.


The best lightweight of this era IMO

You're entitled to it. But let me bring out some data.


Valero is not better than Juan Manuel Marquez at Lightweight.

His Best wins are Pitalua and De Marco...

Marquez has Juan Diaz and Former lineal champ Joel Cassamayor.....Not much calculation needed actually.

[tibbar]

Before Reading this: I am not saying what Edwin Valero did was ok, Read my whole post before flaming my ass. Like Mayweather said, Before judging others with their problems why dont you look at yourself ... deal with your own ****


First off, You cant judge this man. How many people here have #1 experienced his up-bringing? rough childhood mixed with experimenting with coke at the age of 12. #2 Been in a devastating accident that almost killed you and got a blood clot on your brain and got brain damage because of it? And another 10 years of drug/alcohol abuse.



Im sick of everyone talking **** about the guy. He is a boxer for god sakes, Support this guy. Not as the guy he was outside the ring, support the Edwin Valero who was in the ring and as a boxer. I fkn miss Edwin Valero man even tho ive never met or known him. Ive been a fan of his for 4 years and I almost cried when I heard about when he committed the murder then when he committed suicide.

I do not support what he did to his wife. Me and everyone else on this board agree that it was ****** to do that. But we all have to think, If we had the same up-bringing as Edwin wouldnt we be going through the same **** he went through? The guy wasnt the way he was on choice. He had a rough life and mixed with psycological problems that is horrible for one to deal with.


We cannot judge one person without walking in the same shoes as that person


RIP Edwin Valero
RIP Jennifer Carolina
And my prayers go out to their 2 children and the rest of the families





You can all hate me and flame me all you want. Edwin at heart was a good guy but dont judge a guy on his actions when they have mental problems. Never judge a person without walking in the same shoes as them.

people like you should shut the fakk up!! STOP APOLOGIZING for a murderer!!! ****k valero, there are so many in the world who have nothing, no money no food no family yet they are trying to live life struggling to exist on a day to day basis compared to him who squandered not just his fortune and skills and his life by indulging in drugs and alcohol but worst, also forfeited the future of his children and brutally ended the life of a mother. im not going to call her his wife because he doesnt deserve her.

and for your ****in information monsters do not have a heart.