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  • #11
    Originally posted by Bennett View Post
    ****m is making the same mistake every other trainer has made in trying to beat floyd by putting too much time watching the castillo fight. you cant use what castillo did in that first fight to try and beat floyd now. the elite progress and because one can look good against you x amount of years ago doesnt mean it can be reproduced.

    mosley is too old. i watched him start his career and been a die-hard fan through thick and thin. he is too old, and thats that.
    Who said that's the only fight he is watching?On 24/7 he was also watching the agustas fight No?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by tredh View Post
      Show me a fight where Mosley made a good adjustment mid-fight and turned the tide to get a "W".
      Both Hoya fights and the Cotto fight even tho he did not get the win.IMO had that fight been in vagas he would have got the nod.Oh and that was when he still had wack jack just think now with Bro ****m.

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      • #13
        don't waste ur breathe bruh the cult will just come in here with the if shane do does floyd will do this lines.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by romebyko View Post
          Both Hoya fights and the Cotto fight even tho he did not get the win.IMO had that fight been in vagas he would have got the nod.Oh and that was when he still had wack jack just think now with Bro ****m.
          Come on Rome!!! If I remember correctly the 1st De la Hoya fight was just good back and forth action with Mosely winning more rounds no adjustments made. Mosley didn't adjust a thing in the 2nd De la Hoya he stalked and went for the KO the whole fight while De la Hoya boxed again no adjustment. Seriously Cotto? Mosley ate right hands from rounds 1-12 and the only thing he did was stalk and come forward more when Cotto tired and got on his bike and Mosley still ate jabs and rights. He didn't cut off the ring and trap Cotto from moving. I can't agree with you on those Rome.

          So what he has Richardson if mid-fight adjustments is something Mosley is just not good at no trainer is going to change that.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by tredh View Post
            I feel people are really looking at the addition of Richardson from a very one-sided point of view. Richardson may very well come up with a great game plan for Mosley to follow but any game plan is all about execution. I believe since PBF is the better fighter Mosley will not be able to execute that game plan to win this fight. Richardson can be smarter than PBF when it comes to boxing but Mosley is not and sometimes that 1 min between rounds is just not enough tell your fighter what he needs to do especially when said fighter is not known for being good at making mid-fight adjustments. I like Mosley but this just a fight he is not going win plain and simple. Of course it could be a good fight but I was never impressed with Margarito so his performance in that fight does not give me pause to feel like Mosley can get the job done. I believed plaster or not Mosley would have beaten Margarito. All fighters like Margarito over time their punch resistance goes down and it was just Margarito's time. Margarito is done for if faces any consistent heavy handed puncher his punch resistance has gone way down and that is what happens to all fighters who use that style.

            Let me hit on a few points.****m is the key in this fight because Mosley is the better fighter Mayweather is the better Boxer.Key will be Rounds.May is not a busy fighter anymore he uses a great defensive gameplan but his offense has suffered for it.Mosley is no Hatton and won't be charging in chin first.He will Make May open up and fight with effective pressure.I believe May is a great fighter but his best win to date is against Hoya right?He won a SD against Hoya(I had Floyd by two points in that fight)he just won you know why workrate.****m is the key cause he sees this and knows it's a flaw and will exploit it.With smarteffective pressure.No Cellings said that if they get into exchanges May has the upper hand I don't think so.Mosley is punching more in a line right down the pike you know.He is not faster then May but fast enough to catch May with something he dose not see I think he could.I think this will be a great fight but don't sleep onMosley.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by tredh View Post
              Come on Rome!!! If I remember correctly the 1st De la Hoya fight was just good back and forth action with Mosely winning more rounds no adjustments made. Mosley didn't adjust a thing in the 2nd De la Hoya he stalked and went for the KO the whole fight while De la Hoya boxed again no adjustment. Seriously Cotto? Mosley ate right hands from rounds 1-12 and the only thing he did was stalk and come forward more when Cotto tired and got on his bike and Mosley still ate jabs and rights. He didn't cut off the ring and trap Cotto from moving. I can't agree with you on those Rome.

              So what he has Richardson if mid-fight adjustments is something Mosley is just not good at no trainer is going to change that.
              Let me ask what's your definition of adjustment?Mine is to do something different which in both Hoya fights he did.In the Mosley Hoya 1 Hoya was walking Mosley down and using his prime weapon the jab to give distance and make Mosley uncomfortable.Mosley Adjustment he started to use a effetive jab of his on and use his foot speed to go in and out.Work Oscars body and out hustle him and adjustment.The second fight Hoya tryed to use movement and was doing a good job until.Mosley started landing those left hooks to the body which slowed down Hoya enough for him to make Hoya exchange more then he wanted to.Cotto was always a come forward fighter who broke his opponents will and body down.Mosley made Cotto adjust then he also adjusted you don't get outbox by landing the equal amount of punches.Have another fighters home crowd chanting your name.Oh and alot of boxing experts saying they had Mosley winning or the fight a draw.Cotto got a home cook meal IMO.Mosley started to box Cotto a lil more and start to land more effectively and had Cotto doing what he has done from that fight on try to survive.You see I just proved you wrong those are adjustments.They may not have been as pretty as(no pun intended)Mays adjustments but they were adjustments none the less NO?

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              • #17
                Mosley cant fight Flyods fight, plain and simple. Mosley has to dictate fight and overwhemed Flyod. Otherwise Flyod will slowly beat him on points for an easy UD win.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by romebyko View Post
                  IMO Mosley will win on May 1 because of three things....


                  1)Mosley won't mind mixing it up.I believe he won't be like Hatton running in on Maywether.He will use effective pressure and movement(Yes Movement)to offset May's flow and it will be hard at times for May to figure Mosley out.

                  2)Who he has fought I know we beat this down a hundred times with the mythical match-ups.But the fact's still are at WW Mosley has sought out the toughest guy's while May's Claim to fame is Baldy and Zab two guy's that would be a hundred yards up the track vs mosley.Mosley fought the best version of Hoya at WW and won.He also tangoed with Cotto Marga's Forest and is still here at age 38 and still dangerous.I believe this will come in to play when the going get's tough for either man.

                  3)At this point the consensus on B.S. is that you can't teach an old dog new tricks.I beg to differ I believe Mosley is learning the new tricks and will apply them effectively.Let's look at some older fighter's who have change their fight games with success.1.Hoya.When Hoya got with new trainer May Sr he change his whole fight game and won arguably one of the biggest fight's of his career(The Vargas fight).2.MAB.MAB change his styles after the Jr Jones beating and won some nice pair of decision win's over Morales.B-hop.B-hop is a different fighter he now is more of a boxer then the jail house bully we first seen when he came in to the ranks in the beginning of his career.What I'm saying is Mosley just like Pacmonster is a elite fighter him learning new things and applying them should not be that fetched.Mosley has good boxing ability(Not better then May granted)he's got a decent jab(He out Jab Oscar the best Jab in the bizz for this era)and can out will just about anybody.If you think he can't win I'm cool with that but to think May is going to have an easy night of work forgetta bout it.I'm picking Mosley.Who are you picking?

                  all of this ^^^^^^^^^^ great post rome.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Boxingholic View Post
                    Mosley cant fight Flyods fight, plain and simple. Mosley has to dictate fight and overwhemed Flyod. Otherwise Flyod will slowly beat him on points for an easy UD win.
                    If you put a brawler and a technical fighter in the ring together.Provided the brawler have stronger in punching power,chin and stamina.The brawler win 7 out of 10 fights.

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                    • #20
                      Respect you opinion and analysis but I still pick Floyd in this one. Anyone wanna bet? I've got Floyd, I'll give you 2:1 odds.

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