Martinez-Williams II Will Not Be Next

[Jim Jeffries]

I diasagree...

True, I guess if Hamed has an exhibition at CW these days, he might be the fastest.

[onechance87]

The obvious choice, if there is no Pavlik rematch, is for Martinez to go after a rematch with Paul Williams, who eked out a majority decision against him in December in a superb action fight. A rematch loomed as a big fight immediately after the first one. Now that Martinez is middleweight champ, it's even bigger. That said, DiBella said he has already talked to Williams' adviser, Al Haymon, and they agreed that while there should be a rematch eventually, "it ain't next. I can promise you that," DiBella said. http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...z-many-options

Any of those fights will be fine with me.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The point was that Martinez is getting more hype than Paul Williams right now. I stand by that. I don't duck anything, unlike you. Has Williams been hyped in the past? Sure. Have I ever seen anybody say he's the best in history at nay particular anything? No I haven't. With Martinez? Yes.

Which is more farfetched? Martinez being the quickest 154lber ever or Paul Williams cleaning out 4 divisions?

[Calilloyd]

Rating Roy Jones Jr's ability or speed at 154 is just absurd.

I think we're done here.

Ali is the fastest CW.
Roy Jones Jr is the fastest JMW.
Hector Camacho is the fastest MW.

Happy?

The issue was speed. Not ability. Not Number of fights. Not Accomplishments. Comprehend? Nice job trying to divert the issue for about the third time. And I don't care who you rate as the fastest.

[Jim Jeffries]

Which is more farfetched? Martinez being the quickest 154lber ever or Paul Williams cleaning out 4 divisions?

Well seeing as how Williams has ZERO chance of cleaning out WW or SMW ...........

[Jim Jeffries]

The issue was speed. Not ability. Not Number of fights. Not Accomplishments. Comprehend? Nice job trying to divert the issue for about the third time. And I don't care who you rate as the fastest.

No one rates Roy as a JMW in anything, not ability, not speed, ANYTHING.

Comprende mijo?

[Calilloyd]

Which is more farfetched? Martinez being the quickest 154lber ever or Paul Williams cleaning out 4 divisions?

Show any credible sources that definitively said that Williams would clean out and dominate 4 divisions. Boxing scene fans don't count. . I can already show you two respected sources that claimed Martinez is the fastest 154 pound fighter ever. I'll wait.

[Calilloyd]

No one rates Roy as a JMW in anything, not ability, not speed, ANYTHING.
Comprende mijo?

No YOU don't. Speak for yourself.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Show any credible sources that definitively said that Williams would clean out and dominate 4 divisions. Boxing scene fans don't count. . I can already show you two respected sources that claimed Martinez is the fastest 154 pound fighter ever. I'll wait.

LOL....I cant be arsed splitting hairs anymore. Williams was more hyped in my opinion, Martinez in yours. When you talk about hype, you usually gauge responses from boxing fans and that was the hype surrounding Williams. I honestly dont care enough about this to get "credible sources". Show yours if you wish.

[Calilloyd]

No one rates Roy as a JMW in anything, not ability, not speed, ANYTHING.

Comprende mijo?

Thanks for the red K. It lets me know I got the better of you in this debate and you know it.. Thanks lol