Martinez-Williams II Will Not Be Next

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The question was who was faster not who was more established, Moron. But what can I expect from a guy that said Williams barely hit Martinez lol.

Even if you include guys that had minimal experience at 154, its still not "hype" to suggest Sergio is up there....moron

[Calilloyd]

Lol....exactly. How is saying Martinez is one of the fastest 154lbers ever a farfetched statement or "hype"?Yet Paul Williams was supposed to be effective or (worse yet) dominate in up to 4 weights?

Wrong. The statement was that Martinez is THE fastest ever at 154. Numero Uno. Don't start lying.

[Calilloyd]

Even if you include guys that had minimal experience at 154, its still not "hype" to suggest Sergio is up there....moron

Again..the statement was that Martinez is faster than anybody who ever fought at 154. That's hype any way you look at it. I see you've already stooped to lying. Next you'll disappear from the thread like you did the last time.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Wrong. The statement was that Martinez is THE fastest ever at 154. Numero Uno. Don't start lying.

Ok....and thats hype how? Its something you cant measure either way.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Again..the statement was that Martinez is faster than anybody who ever fought at 154. That's hype any way you look at it. I see you've already stooped to lying. Next you'll disappear from this thread like you did the last time.

Lying? About what? Who even made that statement? Again, I wouldnt call it farfetched.

[Calilloyd]

Ok....and thats hype how? Its something you cant measure either way.

Uh..yeah that's hype. If you're too ****** to understand how I'm not going to explain it to you. Google the definition of hype. I'm not going to do your work for you.

[Calilloyd]

Lying? About what? Who even made that statement? Again, I wouldnt call it farfetched.

Of course YOU wouldnt because you're a delusional fan. In your view Paul Williams barely hit Martinez.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Uh..yeah that's hype. If you're too ****** to understand how I'm not going to explain it to you. Google the definition of hype. I'm not going to do your work for you.

Hype would be saying hes the best 154lber ever, not the fastest (esp when he is up there).

Hype is saying a fighter will dominate up to 4 divisions. Which is what Williams was being touted to do. Waaaaay more hype than saying a fighter is the fastest ever....which was the original point you've desperately tried to avoid.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Of course YOU wouldnt because you're a delusional fan. In your view Paul Williams barely hit Martinez.

Nope in my view Martinez stood with his hands by his waist and Williams could barely hit him.....never said that was for every second of every round. But for long periods of that fight, Williams was hitting thin air. When he did land, the majority were nowhere near as clean or effective as Martinez's. You done?

[Jim Jeffries]

I haven't watched any Martinez fight before Bunema, but given how fast the 35 year old is while fighting at MW, I don't think it's a stretch to think he might've been at or near the top in speed at JMW at his fastest.

And I'd say Martinez made Williams miss more than anyone except for Quintana.