Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Mosley is a Non-Title Fight, Says Schaefer

[santinonoc]

Mayweather will not pay for WBA title because he already knew that he can not win against Mosley. He knew that he can't win the fight instead he won't pay the WBA title for less damages (money and reputation)...

[kingfaze19]

"belts do nothing but collect dust" ... "im in the check cashing business"...

floyd told yall in 24/7 what he thinks about belts, and hes right, belts dont mean *****, if he beats mosley, he knocks him down the p4p list and becomes the #1 at welterweight, belt or no belt.

[jbpanama]

Why is there a rematch in the clause if no belt is on the line?

BOY's COMFIDENCE. NO MAS!!!!
hanging by a thread!!!

ADVISORS and folks that do BOY's
THINKING, know the GRAVY TRAIN
is about to be OVER!!!

so a rematch clause INSURES
another pay day!!!

That is if BOY puts up resonable
opposition this go around!!!

MOST IMPORTANT it protects him
from having to meet that MEAN CAT from the
PHILLIPINES, who is just TOO BAD to mess
with!!!!

[jbpanama]

lol Man cotto is my dude but he do be jumping on those vacants like its free burrito day at chipotle's.

the MASTER of AVOIDANCE must practice
HIS CRAFT ie: PUNKING OUT!!!!

[Wukillabeez78]

good post, but i dont blame floyd. he has already paid his dues and at this stage in his career he should only go after big money, high demand fights. when floyd fights mandatories he gets boo boo'd for "ducking" at least this way he can fight high value targets and make a truck load of money.

I didn't blame Floyd either. The ranking system and sanctioning bodies need to be revamped (as I stated in my original post). My point is we need a ranking system so the young, upcoming challengers get a shot to fight for the title after they've come up through the ranks but still don't have that "name recognition". These guys are looked at as high risk/low reward by the champions who have the belts and many champions wouldn't want to fight them unless they were forced to by the sanctioning bodies in the form of being a mandatory title defense. Like someone said, Paul Williams wouldn't have gotten a chance to fight Margarito if it wasn't for the current system and that's just one example.

My second point is a boxer can fight his mandatories and still fight big money non-mandatory fights against who he chooses. It's not like you have 4 or 5 mandatory fights a year. You only have 2 or 3 depending on how many belts you hold and the more belts you have the more consensus there often seems to be as far as the fighters ranked below you. This system does need to be tweeked though because as we all know a fighter will be ranked by one organization and not ranked by another. Look at Bernard Hopkins at middleweight. He fought his mandatories and still had time to participate in a lucrative, middleweight unification tournament with fights against non-mandatories Keith Holmes and Felix Trinidad. He then fought some mandatory title defenses before fighting a big money, non-mandatory fight against Oscar De La Hoya at a catchweight of 158 lbs (2 lbs below the middleweight limit). You can have the belts, fight your mandatories and still fight the big money fights.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I didn't blame Floyd either. The ranking system and sanctioning bodies need to be revamped (as I stated in my original post). My point is we need a ranking system so the young, upcoming challengers get a shot to fight for the title after they've come up through the ranks but still don't have that "name recognition". These guys are looked at as high risk/low reward by the champions who have the belts and many champions wouldn't want to fight them unless they were forced to by the sanctioning bodies in the form of being a mandatory title defense. Like someone said, Paul Williams wouldn't have gotten a chance to fight Margarito if it wasn't for the current system and that's just one example.

My second point is a boxer can fight his mandatories and still fight big money non-mandatory fights against who he chooses. It's not like you have 4 or 5 mandatory fights a year. You only have 2 or 3 depending on how many belts you hold and the more belts you have the more consensus there often seems to be as far as the fighters ranked below you. This system does need to be tweeked though because as we all know a fighter will be ranked by one organization and not ranked by another. Look at Bernard Hopkins at middleweight though. He fought his mandatories and still had time to participate in a lucrative, middleweight unification tournament with fights against non-mandatories Keith Holmes and Felix Trinidad. He then fought some mandatory title defenses before fighting a big money, non-mandatory fight against Oscar De La Hoya at a catchweight of 158 lbs (2 lbs below the middleweight limit). You can have the belts, fight your mandatories and still fight the big money fights.

Bro Oscar, Floyd and Pac are at level where Mandos are out of the question.

They wont waste time with no name mandos. Nor should they.

[Wukillabeez78]

Bro Oscar, Floyd and Pac are at level where Mandos are out of the question.

They wont waste time with no name mandos. Nor should they.

I understand they're at that level, like I said I don't blame Floyd or any other fighter in that position. The ranking system needs to be revamped but it's necessary because not all mandatory fights/fighters are a waste of time. At 147 lbs they might currently be but that's not true for all divisions and it constantly changes as the young fighters move up and become better. Remember, all of these fighters in the limelight now were once young fighters who often lanquished until they were able to prove themselves against a champion as a mandatory challenger.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens after May 1st. If Mosley wins we already know from his past history (fighting Forrest/Wright when no other elite fighters would and then fighting Cotto/Margarito/Mayweather at his advancing age) that he'll want to continue to fight the best challengers out there regardless of whether they're mandatory defenses or otherwise. If Mayweather wins though I could honestly see him retiring after May 1st, win or lose especially if he wins and he and Pacquiao don't ever come to an agreement. The public doesn't want to see him mention fighting opponents like Matthew Hatton. Most of the other big money fights left for him would be against the type of boxers he hasn't shown a desire to fight since leaving lightweight. I'd like to see if Mayweather can defeat this generations Vernon Forrest (Paul Williams). If not him then maybe one of these younger champions at 140 (Bradley, Alexander even Khan). Unfortunately, Mayweather squandered his opportunity to fight the best at 147. There were plenty of options when he first entered the divison a few years back but they've had to fight one another since he had no interest and many of those names (Margarito, Cotto, Clottey, Cintron, Collazo,etc...) have lost some of their luster now...