Notice: Floyd Mayweather Jr. DID NOT "Out-Skill" JMM

[Come∂ian]

I'm a fighter...I don't need to be apro or more achieved than them to spark debate. That's why they fight on TV duhhhh.... I do know more than you and the majority of the *****'s on here. YOU are the incomptent one. I'm tired, going to sleep. Good night drone. Mosley by KO!!!!

Saying this much dumb **** back to back would mentally drain anyone, nighty night go replenish your low IQ and come back tomorrow to give us a laugh.

[shadeyfizzle]

You said Mayweather didnt outskill Marquez? I don't get it. He outlanded him 290 to 69. Forget saying Marquez is a terrible offensive fighter, I know he likes to counter punch but his offence was good enough to beat most of the guys he fought. Why was Marquez able to land at will against Pacquiao and hardly land at all against Mayweather? It has nothing to do with size, It's all about skills.

People will say Mayweather won because Marquez is a counter puncher. That's a ****** thing to say as Floyd is a counter puncher too. So it makes no difference. The thing is that in addition to counter punching Mayweather is also a very good defensive fighter (unlike Marquez) and can use the jab and right hand better than Marquez. This is why he beat him so convingly, Because he has more aspects to his game than Marquez does.

i never said anything of the sort. I just made a comment on how floyd fans always post gifs of marquez whiffing everytime anyone mentions that fight. Except Marquez is a horrible offensive fighter. Theres gifs of Marquez getting knocked down with his legs in the air when he tried to initiate the action against pacquiao.

All i was saying is that mayweather showboating by making marquez whiff wasnt even the most impressive aspect of floyd's gameplan against marquez so i dont understand the *****s obsession over it.

[Suckmedry]

It's true.

The reason why Floyd won is because a good big guy always beats a good little guy. When you fight lighter/smaller guys you're more relaxed because it doesn't require as much work, and it's in reverse when you fight bigger guys. As a result, fighters begin to tire and slow down, and it looks to be a mismatch, but it's really the size difference. If you don't believe me, go to the gym and spar with a smaller kid who's a little bit better than you technically but not as old/heavy as you naturally and you will see. Floyd had all the advantages in the fight, and easily won. But it was NOT because of a technical mismatch.

Juan Manuel Marquez actually laid the blueprint on how to get to Mayweather. And Marquez landed clean shots throughout the fight (especially early), although they were not effective because JMM is no Welterweight. Juan was timing Mayweather before Juan got knocked down espcialy you could see Juan timing the leaping left hook especially. Something that I picked up on Floyd and Shane should use this over and over is to time Mayweather's lead hook. Floyd throws the punch (or steps in with the jab to the body) ONLY when his opponent takes a half step back (a get out of range step). Marquez picked up on it and was using it. If Mosley exploits this tendency, he won't land a weak but clean punch, he'll knocke Mayweather out.

If you thought Mayweather looked good with his defense and offense against Marquez, and you think he'll do the same to Mosley, THINK AGAIN.

Floyd's size advantage helped, but the main reason he won is because when two skilled counterpunchers with great timing fight, the one with faster hands and reflexes wins. Plus he is probably better technically than Marquez too.

[Suckmedry]

People need to know what they are talking about before they just talk this ****. I know I've said it over and over but you can't comment on this kind of stuff if you don't box, you can't grasp it.

I am a counterpuncher, like JMM but obviously nowhere near as experienced. I know from personal experience that when a counterpuncher fights another similary skilled counterpuncher, it is really hard for the slower one to control the fight, and if the slower guy is used to almost exclusively countering, and isn't so great off the front foot and can't make that sudden adjustment, they are pretty much screwed.

I've had it happen to me before. I could even post the fight up here but it's on DVD and I have 0 idea how to fiddle around with that and get it on youtube or whatever.

[Hannibal Barca]

Exactly. Marquez was catching Floyd when he mixed it up.

FLoyd used 2%.....get out of here with tht bull****. Pacquiao knocked Marquez down 3 times in one fight. Pacquiao maybe gave 100 percent more agianst Hatton and DLH but look Floyd didn't looke good in those fights. We know that Pac gave 100 more than Floyd agianst Cotto because Floyd would never in a million years fight prime Cotto before Margarito.

Marquez wasn't hitting anything. He landed 12% of his punches.

Pac knocked Marquez down and still got outboxed for 24 rounds. Nigh everybody, journalist, analyst, historian, or otherwise had JMM winning the second bout.

Floyd KO'd Hatton and snatched away his zero. Team Pac, as they usually do, didn't schedule a fight with the man until he was coming off an L, and following the L, fight where he'd been brutalized by Lazcano. My Roach's own admission Hatton was done, Floyd had took whatever he had away from him.

By Roach's own admission DLH was a dead man walking whom no longer desired to fight when he was matched up against Manny. He was literally drained and dehydrated, and this came straight from the mouth of Pacs camp.

You don't know **** about boxing. Cotto never wanted it with Floyd. After the Gatti fight, a fight where Cotto was sitting ring side, he witnessed first hand the technical skill Floyd possessed. Afterwards? An offer was never brought to the table. Cotto didn't want anything to do with Floyd at 140. Team Pac of course waited until the man had been ruined by Margarito before matching him up with Pac. Another one of Roach's admissions.

[Haqq]

Respect the win bro, outsized or not it takes skill to defeat opponents.

[intoccabile]

People need to know what they are talking about before they just talk this ****. I know I've said it over and over but you can't comment on this kind of stuff if you don't box, you can't grasp it.

I am a counterpuncher, like JMM but obviously nowhere near as experienced. I know from personal experience that when a counterpuncher fights another similary skilled counterpuncher, it is really hard for the slower one to control the fight, and if the slower guy is used to almost exclusively countering, and isn't so great off the front foot and can't make that sudden adjustment, they are pretty much screwed.

I've had it happen to me before. I could even post the fight up here but it's on DVD and I have 0 idea how to fiddle around with that and get it on youtube or whatever.

But marquez has never had the defense floyd has, or has even been known for his defense at all. Just his ability to "fire back" with precision. Although the counter puncher vs counter puncher aspect plays a huge roll, lets not forget the difference in defenses.

[Suckmedry]

IF he were smaller. Then why did he come in overweight and had to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to Marquez? Mayweather was supposed to be 144. If he was Marquez's size he would've came in on point. Obviously Mayweather is much bigger.

Size makes a much bigger difference than any of you realize.

Shane's punches are a longer than Marquez's too. The wya Mayweather slips is right in line for Mosley to KTFO the bum. Mayweather and his bloodline is going back to mediocrity. His uncles were nothing special, his daddy wasn't special. Floyd isn't and never was that special.

Rgoer was a 2 time world champ and Jeff and Floyd Sr. were both solid pros with experience. Just because a guy isn't a top 10 p4p elite level fighter doesn't mean he can't fight. Again, if you fought for real you would know that.

[Hannibal Barca]

Rgoer was a 2 time world champ and Jeff and Floyd Sr. were both solid pros with experience. Just because a guy isn't a top 10 p4p elite level fighter doesn't mean he can't fight. Again, if you fought for real you would know that.

They're blinded by hate man. There's no need to even address their irrational post.

[RisAri0]

ummmm its both.. becuz floyd definitely outskilled marquez.. the size factor was a bonus.. becuz floyd would still pitch a shut out if he was 2 inches shorter in height