Edwin Valero; How good could he have been?

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  • Trenchant
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    #31
    The rumor was that he was a Methhead and an alcoholic. Maybe he was on Meth when he beat De Marco. His eyes always looked like they were bugging out of his head. If he was clean, then maybe he was a great fighter. I never saw him hit clean by a powerful fighter so I guess we'll never know. But the guy was a monster out of the ring, clearly a mentalcase.

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    • DiLLiNGER
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      #32
      Originally posted by DR.ORGYY
      the guy wasnt even a proven fighter yet....were talking about the #1 p4p guy in the game rite now....so yes i can speculate something i no would happen....
      His career start is better than pacquiaos, at least he hasn't been knocked down via a body jab lol...27 wins 27 ko's and now go to boxrec and look up who manny's first 27 were or even 30 fights...so you can't say he would beat him.

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      • Dan...
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        #33
        Originally posted by gibo
        If Salvador Sanchez is considered an ATG then Edwin Valero should also be considered the same if not more!!!!
        Again!

        Wtf is with ppl trying to compare Salvador to Valero?

        Pack of morons.

        Sal beat GREAT fighters.

        Who did Valero beat? ***n DeMarco? Wow, he knocked out a whole pack of bums in the first round, big deal.

        Talk about Valero's potential all you like, and yes he did have the potential to be great, but to compare him with a fighter that achieved what Sanchez did is just plain mad.

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        • DR.ORGYY
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          #34
          Originally posted by DiLLiNGER
          His career start is better than pacquiaos, at least he hasn't been knocked down via a body jab lol...27 wins 27 ko's and now go to boxrec and look up who manny's first 27 were or even 30 fights...so you can't say he would beat him.
          yea cause pac is the same fighter he was back then come on man get real...pac has beaten barrera, morales, de la hoya, hatton, cotto, clottey, and the list goes on....i mean i liked valero but name one guy that was legit that he beat?

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          • pelonxsoldier28
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            #35
            If he could tuck that chin in and have a defense then he could have gone somewhere. I would see pac ko'ing his ass because of that chin sticking way out like a hood ornament

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            • Roy Hobbs
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              #36
              Originally posted by gibo
              If Salvador Sanchez is considered an ATG then Edwin Valero should also be considered the same if not more!!!!
              I hope this is sarcasm. At least sal sanchez gave us 40 plus fights & his greatness was actually verified by other greats like wilfredo gomez, azumah nelson, & danny red lopez. Valero never got the chance. That's why i think he's more tragic than sal with the fact that he killed his wife, he committed suicide & left 2 young kids without a mom & dad.

              Originally posted by jreckoning
              You act like he didn't spar the best and whip their ass?

              Pretend it didn't happen, that's cool.

              Valero was dangerous for anyone.

              Everyone knew his potential. He battered a lot of good pros in sparring.

              I don't see why he couldn't do in a real fight.
              I think one of the biggest mysteries is what actually happened with valero & pacquiao sparring. There are very conflicting reports saying they sparred, they didnt spar, freddie was scared, valero got the best of manny, manny said he got the best of valero or whatnot.

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              • DiLLiNGER
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                #37
                Originally posted by DR.ORGYY
                yea cause pac is the same fighter he was back then come on man get real...pac has beaten barrera, morales, de la hoya, hatton, cotto, clottey, and the list goes on....i mean i liked valero but name one guy that was legit that he beat?
                Let's not talk about the fighters I high lighted..I could write a book about why he beat them lol....valero was oscars sparring partner before the pac fight..de la hoya didn't wanna spar him anymore..he apparently hit very hard and that's how he recieved the black eye..and who said that valero wouldn't improve if he was still alive??

                Pac hasn't fought anyone who opposed a danger to him yet.. I mean shane mosley was there he would of been a threat to pacquiao but like freddy roach said he was too much of a danger to his pupil lol

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                • DR.ORGYY
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by DiLLiNGER
                  Let's not talk about the fighters I high lighted..I could write a book about why he beat them lol....valero was oscars sparring partner before the pac fight..de la hoya didn't wanna spar him anymore..he apparently hit very hard and that's how he recieved the black eye..and who said that valero wouldn't improve if he was still alive??

                  Pac hasn't fought anyone who opposed a danger to him yet.. I mean shane mosley was there he would of been a threat to pacquiao but like freddy roach said he was too much of a danger to his pupil lol
                  yea cause valero could beat cotto, clottey and who even knows if he could even beat hatton......and when did i say valero didnt hit hard? and dont duck this question, who did valero beat?

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                  • Suckmedry
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by gibo
                    If Salvador Sanchez is considered an ATG then Edwin Valero should also be considered the same if not more!!!!
                    You have to be fucking kidding me

                    Sanchz beat Gomez, Lopez x2, Nelson and other top fighters. Valero fought no one near that calibre.

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                    • Seleção No. 13
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                      #40
                      I'd place an option of "great fighter with bad resume" between "just below HOF" and "pretender"

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