Paul Williams is getting no respect on this board.

[Kagami Taiga]

Well you can take it out of the equation but he won. I mean, I understand you had your score as I have mine but this wasn't some robbery that we can just erase. It was a tough fight where he was knocked down early, battered and then came on in the middle rounds before closing like a champ. And got the decision. Check that, earned the decision. I don't discount that. He also is a two-division champ who holds a one-sided win over Winky Wright. PW is rated higher pound for pound on my list.

exactly, its like a fighter gets a little hype on this board and hes the best thing since sliced bread. i dnt get some of the logic ppl bring on this board.

[The Underboss]

PW is nothing but class act and wishes to fight the BEST out there all the time, he always gets me out of my seat whenever he's fighting...dude is a machine.

[F l i c k e r]

Paul Williams is the only guy in the world who can be 38-1 and never get fights.


I wouldn't be surprised if Martinez decided to not fight Paul again.

[Jim Jeffries]

No he didn't what? And not for nothing, but in his last fight, Williams beat Martinez. Did I miss something? That would mean he's beaten the best at 147 and 154...and now 160 if you consider Martinez the best at both divisions.

No Paul Williams didn't win a world title at 154.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

5 fight win streak against

Quintana: who outclassed him the first time by a MILE!..so in reality they're 1-1

Andy Kolle: Who?

Verno Phillips: who's like 5'3..ok win at best for stopping him

Winky Wright: 2 year layoff..rusted out..and horrible match up..seriously..ok win at best too..

Martinez: struggled immensly!..got dropped ugly!..and arguably lost!! (again 110-119 WTF?!)

all the fighters are more well rounded, better skilled, and arguably have better resumes with in the last few years..true story..

Paul Williams is alright..I don't take anything away from the fact that he's a monster and a threat to EVERYONE from 140.1(*******s!..lol)-160..but uwanting to overrated him won't work until he stops looking so vulnerable against people who really shouldn't..and be more dominant in his key victories..that's all..

You my dude but you been on a Paul hate crusade all day...lol.

Quintana didnt outclass by him a mile. However Williams did that to him in the rematch.

How can you laugh at his wins then act like guys like Cotto wanted to fight him. You cant have it both ways. He couldnt get fights.

Who has he looked vunerable against?

Slick lefties? Excuse Paul for going out his way to fight guys that give him bad style matchups.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

No, he didn't. That seems to be a common misconception on this board.



Pavlik was undisputed at MW and also undefeated at that weight. A win that trumps Williams' whole career to this point.

You seem to have no problem ranking Mosley over Cotto, despite Cotto's win over him.

You have to be kidding me?

Cotto beat Mosley in 2007.

Marg beat Cotto in 2008.

Mosley beat Marg in 2009.


You dont get how Mosley is ranked over Cotto. Like are you being serious right now?




How does that win trump Williams whole career. When Williams beat Martinez who just proved he was better then Pavlik.

You arent making sense.

A little feedback please.

[Jim Jeffries]

You have to be kidding me?

Cotto beat Mosley in 2007.

Marg beat Cotto in 2008.

Mosley beat Marg in 2009.


You dont get how Mosley is ranked over Cotto. Like are you being serious right now?




How does that win trump Williams whole career. When Williams beat Martinez who just proved he was better then Pavlik.

You arent making sense.

A cheating Margarito beat Cotto.
Mosley beat a non cheating Margarito.
Williams needed a gift to beat Martinez.

Fairly simple stuff, even for you.

[IMDAZED]

No Paul Williams didn't win a world title at 154.

You are grasping at straws here. He beat Verno Phillips for the interim WBO crown when the truth is, Phillips still should have had the IBF title on his waist - a belt he never lost in the ring. Let's be real here.

[IMDAZED]

A cheating Margarito beat Cotto.
Mosley beat a non cheating Margarito.
Williams needed a gift to beat Martinez.

Fairly simple stuff, even for you.

A "cheating" Margarito couldn't beat Williams.

And I think you need to go look up the word gift. That's absurd. People just throw terms around so lightly on these boards.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

A cheating Margarito beat Cotto.
Mosley beat a non cheating Margarito.
Williams needed a gift to beat Martinez.

Fairly simple stuff, even for you.

Now you are just trolling. My goodness grow up man.

So you dont get how Mosley is ranked over Cotto because Cotto beat him in 2007? Are you serious?