10 years from now don't start saying Valero is an ATG..

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  • Killa Killa
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    #11
    Originally posted by Allucard
    In two months the 28 bums will be 28 ATG fighters and De Marco will be god.
    LOL...I can see it now....

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    • Pullcounter
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      #12
      Valero is gonna become another Ike-job.

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      • Allucard
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        #13
        Originally posted by Soir
        He has a perfect KO percentage so for that he will always be at the top of the record books. You cant take that away from him.
        Don't you think it will be possible to fabricate another 27-0 100% KO ratio fighter soon? With the matchmaking it is now possible to do, i just wish some real talented guy dedicates his career to shatter those records through programmed matchmaking, so you guys get a grasp ANYONE can do it. We'll be hearing you criticize that guy and that will sort no effect whatsoever.

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        • Verstyle
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          #14
          Originally posted by Dan...
          You can't compare Valero's resume with Sanchez's. They are world's apart. Salvador was a genuine ATG fighter. Valero was just a nutcase who wasted a copious amount of talent. He doesn't have anything but average wins to his name.
          It will settle in soon. Having all those KOs in the first is huge. No matter your comp. Tyson or Foreman couldn't even do that. Also how do you characterize him being a great fighter? Sanchez that is.

          It seems that you're just highly upset rigt now.

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          • Killa Killa
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            #15
            Originally posted by VERSATILE2K10
            It will settle in soon. Having all those KOs in the first is huge. No matter your comp. Tyson or Foreman couldn't even do that. Also how do you characterize him being a great fighter? Sanchez that is.

            It seems that you're just highly upset rigt now.
            Not when a guy like Tyrone Brunsom comes behind and breaks his first round KO record

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            • jrosales13
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              #16
              Originally posted by Killa Killa
              Do you think people are going to start ranking him as one of the greatest Lightweights of all time...?? (Delusional people)
              Nope, nobody will. He probably that what if factor like Ibeabuchi has....

              Originally posted by Killa Killa
              The way people ranked Salvador Sanchez after his death, though Sanchez had a few decent wins...

              Thoughts...
              Decent wins? Wilfredo Gomez was a decent win? Since that is a decent win then tell him what the hell is a great win? Did you see that fight? Do you know how good Gomez was? Decent?

              Salvador holds wins against HOF'ers like Nelson, Gomez, and Lopez(2x) all by KO's. Also hold wins against "decent" fighters like Laporte, Castillo, and Ford.

              Sanchez didn't have to die after Nelson. He could of retired and still be a HOF'er... Dude had a very strong resume and was a an excellent counterpuncher. And, packed considerable power.

              But, Sanchez also holds that what if factor because he could of been in that top 10-15 all time if he would of continued going in the path he was going.

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              • minasyan
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                #17
                Originally posted by Max05
                he will be ATG for sure

                how many 2 division champ have undefeated record and all wins by KO and 19 in round 1
                to me it's about who you have beaten who cares if a fighter kos people to someone else who is a tactical king and wins on decisions

                valero hasn't done ****

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                • jrosales13
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Killa Killa
                  You know that guy Tyrone Brunsom, with the record for most 1st round KO's...

                  I saw him lose to a journeyman....
                  That's cool,

                  but did you see Valero lose to a journeyman?

                  Don't compare a bum like Brunsom to Valero, and don't compare Valero to Sanchez...

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                  • Killa Killa
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Nope, nobody will. He probably that what if factor like Ibeabuchi has....



                    Decent wins? Wilfredo Gomez was a decent win? Since that is a decent win then tell him what the hell is a great win? Did you see that fight? Do you know how good Gomez was? Decent?

                    Salvador holds wins against HOF'ers like Nelson, Gomez, and Lopez(2x) all by KO's. Also hold wins against "decent" fighters like Laporte, Castillo, and Ford.

                    Sanchez didn't have to die after Nelson. He could of retired and still be a HOF'er... Dude had a very strong resume and was a an excellent counterpuncher. And, packed considerable power.

                    But, Sanchez also holds that what if factor because he could of been in that top 10-15 all time if he would of continued going in the path he was going.
                    My bad...

                    I wasn't discrediting Sanchez...

                    I was using him as an example....

                    He cemented his legacy for what it's worth...

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by VERSATILE2K10
                      It will settle in soon. Having all those KOs in the first is huge. No matter your comp. Tyson or Foreman couldn't even do that. Also how do you characterize him being a great fighter? Sanchez that is.

                      It seems that you're just highly upset rigt now.
                      Are you questioning Sanchez?

                      WTF is going on here?

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