It's funny to read "Floyd would EASILY outbox Martinez"

[Calilloyd]

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How many times have you seen him caught off balance? Can you name the fights and instances?

Yeah his last two knockdowns. He also fell to the canvas more than once against Pavlik. Emmanual stewart pointed out the problems with his balance. Do you need any more?

[Calilloyd]

well you gonna be off balance when your facing taller opponents. Also when you move constantly vs standing in a stationary position like Floyd does with that shoulder roll your gonna be more prone to getting caught off balance. Don't believe, rewatch Hatton vs May when Floyd was moving around and hatton staggered him.

I mean to use Williams and Pavlik is a reach don't you think. The height and arm length that Martinez gave up, combined with him moving around constantly and coming in and out (he really didn't have a choice) is a big reason as to why he was off balance at times. Put any guy like Floyd or Shane in their and they will get caught off balance as well.

How many times did Mayweather go off balance vs 6 foot Diego Corrales? Or Phillip N'dou? You're looking for excuses now.

[Khalid X]

thats not necessarily true imo in regards to fighting taller opponents and being on the move. calderon is the smaller man in every fight and he like floyd has some of the best footwork and doesn't get off balance like sergio does. actually i believe there was a clash of feet. if you look closely this appears to be the case. id post a yt video but the site is down atm.

sergio didn't give a whole lot up though. pavliks reach is only a bit longer and williams leans in and givens up his height allowing himself to be hit easier.

where are guys getting that he is off balance a lot? As far as the moving around part....I'm just saying the chances of getting caught off balance greatly increases the more you move around and go in and out. How many fighters do you know that are constantly moving as much as Martinez?

I mean it's easy for Floyd to not be caught off balance when most of the time he has his feet plant, either shoulder rolling or using that high guard defense.

[Kagami Taiga]

im sorry o, but theres no way he has better footwork than may. he trips up a lot, he jumps in and out and his ring generalship is up there, but mayweather' is the best. his pace is wayyy tooo fast, thats why he tired in the later rounds. all of these are factors of foot work. all of these are things mayweather is brilliant at, for instance, when was the last time u saw mayweather tire out in the middle rounds of a fight???

now how can u say martinez has better footwork???i cant picture that...too much wasted movement. if u ask me, his footwork is more comparable to a guy like dirrells than it is to mayweathers. both r very good, but just a notch below mayweathers. im not een saying mayweather would win a fight between the two but his skill is on a higher level.

[Khalid X]

Yeah his last two knockdowns. He also fell to the canvas more than once against Pavlik. Emmanual stewart pointed out the problems with his balance. Do you need any more?

Man one of those when Pavlik pushed him down and another was due to their feet getting tangled up. If that's the case Floyd has bad footwork due to Zab almost dropping him and catching him off balance.

[Calilloyd]

where are guys getting that he is off balance a lot? As far as the moving around part....I'm just saying the chances of getting caught off balance greatly increases the more you move around and go in and out. How many fighters do you know that are constantly moving as much as Martinez?

I mean it's easy for Floyd to not be caught off balance when most of the time he has his feet plant, either shoulder rolling or using that high guard defense.

Mayweather moves his feet. That excuse won't cut it.

[tdubb]

come on guys, Floyd is better than Ray Robinson and he's undefeated. He can beat Martinez easily.

[Khalid X]

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How many times did Mayweather go off balance vs 6 foot Diego Corrales? Or Phillip N'dou? You're looking for excuses now.

Again he wasn't moving nearly as much as Martinez was. I can tell you this....he was caught off balance and almost dropped by Ricky Hatton....why? because he was moving around more than he normal does. I mean it should be obvious, the more you move the more you are susceptible to being caught off balance.

[Calilloyd]

Man one of those when Pavlik pushed him down and another was due to their feet getting tangled up. If that's the case Floyd has bad footwork due to Zab almost dropping him and catching him off balance.

That's a part of footwork. And if you want to use that as an example, that was one fight and Mayweather's body never touched the canvas. Only his glove did. So who has the better footwork? The guy who hits the canvas or that guy that stays on his feet? Since you want to use that.

[Calilloyd]

Again he wasn't moving nearly as much as Martinez was. I can tell you this....he was caught off balance and almost dropped by Ricky Hatton....

why? because he was moving around more than he normal does. I mean it should be obvious, the more you move the more you are susceptible to being caught off balance.

Did Mayweather go down? yes or no. Did Martinez go down? Yes or no. And Mayweather moved plenty against Corrales.