It's funny to read "Floyd would EASILY outbox Martinez"

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  • Calilloyd
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    #71
    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
    I read this thread and there is no way Floyd is ****in with Martinez. That guy is faster than floyd, has better footwork, southpaw and will give Floyd way too many angles. Martinez wins by UD 9 rounds to 3.
    Sorry but that's just hating there. Martinez footwork is no where near as good as Mayweather's. Which is why he's caught off balance a lot. He's not faster either. At 160 he's too big for Mayweather. And to all of the people talking about how Mayweather should fight at 154 because of the Delahoya fight, Mayweather had one fight there and weighed in at 150 pounds? That's not his division.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Ray*


      So you know how footwork works in boxing? The fact that he got drop in his last two fights due to getting himself off balance should tell you he doesnt have good footwork, Because a guy can move doesnt = good footwork, If you told me he has good footspeed i would probably agree with you but he has the best footwork in boxing? Hell NO
      again anyone who constantly moves and doesn't plant there feet are more prone to being off balance. I mean Floyd was staggered and caught off balance against Hatton and others as well? So do you think it's fair for me bring those up as reason as to why Floyd doesn't have good footwork??

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        #73
        Originally posted by Zarco
        I think he is, he looks fast as **** punching upwards in 2 fights against guys who are 6'2+. Compare their speed with Mayweather vs Hatton/Marquez punching downwards against 5'7 guys and Martinez vs Williams/Pavlik and I just dont see how Floyd is faster than Martinez.
        He looks fast as **** against fighters not known for speed.

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          #74
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          What size glove does Floyd use in his WW fights?
          10 oz for Delahoya. 10 oz for Hatton.

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            #75
            Originally posted by Calilloyd
            Sorry but that's just hating there. Martinez footwork is no where near as good as Mayweather's. Which is why he's caught off balance a lot. He's not faster either. At 160 he's too big for Mayweather. And to all of the people talking about how Mayweather should fight at 154 because of the Delahoya fight, Mayweather had one fight there and weighed in at 150 pounds? That's not his division.
            Why is that every time someone doesn't say Floyd is the in a certain category it's considered hate? You guys are way too sensitive when it comes to having opinion on Floyd vs other boxers

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              #76
              I'm a Floyd fan and I don't think he'd easily outbox Martinez. Personally, I don't think Floyd would even consider fighting him.

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                #77
                [QUOTE=O.S.I.R.I.S;8127722]reach, speed, footwork, size etc....all advantages. Not only that he puts combo's together better than anyone Floyd has ever faced



                Martinez has better footwork and handspeed than Floyd. I mean it should be obviously to any person who isn't biased (not saying you are btw)




                I think that applies to you actually. As much as Martinez is caught off balance it would seem to make it obvious his footwork is not better than a fighter with exceptional balance. You can hate Mayweather all you want but your statements are shockingly inaccurate. Footwork is based on technique and it's not close between the two.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                  well you gonna be off balance when your facing taller opponents. Also when you move constantly vs standing in a stationary position like Floyd does with that shoulder roll your gonna be more prone to getting caught off balance. Don't believe, rewatch Hatton vs May when Floyd was moving around and hatton staggered him.

                  I mean to use Williams and Pavlik is a reach don't you think. The height and arm length that Martinez gave up, combined with him moving around constantly and coming in and out (he really didn't have a choice) is a big reason as to why he was off balance at times. Put any guy like Floyd or Shane in their and they will get caught off balance as well.
                  thats not necessarily true imo in regards to fighting taller opponents and being on the move. calderon is the smaller man in every fight and he like floyd has some of the best footwork and doesn't get off balance like sergio does. actually i believe there was a clash of feet. if you look closely this appears to be the case. id post a yt video but the site is down atm.

                  sergio didn't give a whole lot up though. pavliks reach is only a bit longer and williams leans in and givens up his height allowing himself to be hit easier.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Calilloyd
                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                    reach, speed, footwork, size etc....all advantages. Not only that he puts combo's together better than anyone Floyd has ever faced



                    Martinez has better footwork and handspeed than Floyd. I mean it should be obviously to any person who isn't biased (not saying you are btw)



                    I think that applies to you actually. As much as Martinez is caught off balance it would seem to make it obvious his footwork is not better than a fighter with exceptional balance. You can hate Mayweather all you want but your statements are shockingly inaccurate. Footwork is based on technique and it's not close between the two.
                    How many times have you seen him caught off balance? Can you name the fights and instances?

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                      Why is that every time someone doesn't say Floyd is the in a certain category it's considered hate? You guys are way too sensitive when it comes to having opinion on Floyd vs other boxers
                      If you've noticed, no respectable poster agrees with what you said. Because it's obvious that Martinez does not have better footwork than Mayweather. I've also noticed that whenever the topic of Mayweather comes up, you take the opposing view against Mayweather regardless of what the topic is. Example: If somebody posted: " Mosley's defense is better than Mayweather" you would probably agree with it based on what I've read. I don't think Mayweather has an easy time with Martinez. I also think at 160 Martinez would be too big. But you're not keeping it real.

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