Is Martinez Still Overrated?

[mathed]

Nah, I was a fan when I saw the Bunema fight.

That was the 1st time I had seen him, and knew he was a special fighter.

My story exactly, the guy is a star...no joke with him.

[Run]

My story exactly, the guy is a star...no joke with him.

I must be the only person who KNEW he would beat Pavlik.

That's why it's no big deal to me.



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[Spray_resistant]

My story exactly, the guy is a star...no joke with him.

The hand speed for a JMW was just awesome and the awkwardness and countering ability really left an impression on me.

Now he beats up the Pavlik who ko's most of his MW opponents and who outweighed Sergio a natural 154lber by 11lbs in the fight.

[Run]

I never called him a top P4P fighter, but looking at the current landscape of the P4P list, it wouldn't be an outrage to place him there. But I do agree that he needs more work on his resume to land top placement.

He's a hell of a fighter. There is no dis*****g that.



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[Steak]

hmm, well I think hes going to be overrated now after his win tonight.

Dont get me wrong, hes very talented...fast, very solid boxing ability, and actually quite exciting despite his 'defensive' based style. Flat out, the guy is quality.

However, he has some faults...his defense is somewhat leaky at times and he seems to run out of stamina if continually pressured. Every fighter has their faults though, of course.

Pavlik was, and is, pretty one dimensional however. Martinez simply had someone in front of him that he could read like a book, despite the size disadvantage. the middleweight division has been pretty darn weak for a while now.

Im already reading things like 'Martinez could beat the top 168lbers' and all though. and uh...I dont know about that.
Could be wrong, but I dont think his 'reign' is going to last long. Im sure he will give very quality performances until he loses the belt, however, and look foward to all his fights.

and off topic but to these kiddies with the 'Pavlik is a kkk member/****' comments: grow up.

[Run]

hmm, well I think hes going to be overrated now after his win tonight.

Dont get me wrong, hes very talented...fast, very solid boxing ability, and actually quite exciting despite his 'defensive' based style. Flat out, the guy is quality.

However, he has some faults...his defense is somewhat leaky at times and he seems to run out of stamina if continually pressured. Every fighter has their faults though, of course.

Pavlik was, and is, pretty one dimensional however. Martinez simply had someone in front of him that he could read like a book, despite the size disadvantage. the middleweight division has been pretty darn weak for a while now.

Im already reading things like 'Martinez could beat the top 168lbers' and all though. and uh...I dont know about that.
Could be wrong, but I dont think his 'reign' is going to last long. Im sure he will give very quality performances until he loses the belt, however, and look foward to all his fights.

and off topic but to these kiddies with the 'Pavlik is a kkk member/****' comments: grow up.

This was my only goddamn point.



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[Imhotep]

Those few of us, who have seen the potential of Martinez in previous fights knew what Martinez is capable of. Sometimes, you watch a fighter and you know he has what it takes to make it to the top. It's the little things a fighter does as well as the big things.

The only fighter I see beating Martinez at 154 and 160 is Paul Williams. He's just that good.

The only people that thought he was overrated are the ones that was hyping up Arthur Abraham,Kelly Pavlik,Samuel Peter,Jermaine Taylor and Kessler.

The latest fighter they hyping is Bute.


They`ll never learn so i wont bother anymore.

[2501]

hmm, well I think hes going to be overrated now after his win tonight.

Dont get me wrong, hes very talented...fast, very solid boxing ability, and actually quite exciting despite his 'defensive' based style. Flat out, the guy is quality.

However, he has some faults...his defense is somewhat leaky at times and he seems to run out of stamina if continually pressured. Every fighter has their faults though, of course.

Pavlik was, and is, pretty one dimensional however. Martinez simply had someone in front of him that he could read like a book, despite the size disadvantage. the middleweight division has been pretty darn weak for a while now.

Im already reading things like 'Martinez could beat the top 168lbers' and all though. and uh...I dont know about that.
Could be wrong, but I dont think his 'reign' is going to last long. Im sure he will give very quality performances until he loses the belt, however, and look foward to all his fights.

and off topic but to these kiddies with the 'Pavlik is a kkk member/****' comments: grow up.

I dont see Martinez going to 168. He would lose alot of the attributes that make him a great fighter just like JMM lost them going up in weight. For a fighter relying on speed, reflex and agility, gaining weight makes it a lot harder for them to be effective. Especially when the best fighters at 168 are natural fast in that division such as Dirrell and Ward.

[Imhotep]

hmm, well I think hes going to be overrated now after his win tonight.

Dont get me wrong, hes very talented...fast, very solid boxing ability, and actually quite exciting despite his 'defensive' based style. Flat out, the guy is quality.

However, he has some faults...his defense is somewhat leaky at times and he seems to run out of stamina if continually pressured. Every fighter has their faults though, of course.

Pavlik was, and is, pretty one dimensional however. Martinez simply had someone in front of him that he could read like a book, despite the size disadvantage. the middleweight division has been pretty darn weak for a while now.

Im already reading things like 'Martinez could beat the top 168lbers' and all though. and uh...I dont know about that.
Could be wrong, but I dont think his 'reign' is going to last long. Im sure he will give very quality performances until he loses the belt, however, and look foward to all his fights.

and off topic but to these kiddies with the 'Pavlik is a kkk member/****' comments: grow up.

I agree.While i think he`s good,people are going overboard with"He`ll beat Hopkins,Thor and Hercules.

[mathed]

I'm just glad he got some respect. He is a quality fighter