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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #21
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    don't know anything about the guy. could turn out to be another maidana moment. GBP should do some real scouting and matchmaking this time so they don't ruin alvarez like they did ortiz.
    Hes the WW IBF Champ and to be frank is a bum.

    Canelo would dominate him.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #22
      Originally posted by snootz86
      You call it exposing.. i call it giving a young guy a tough fight.. **** protecting fighters so much building weak records, having an unblemished record full of bums means nothing. GDP has the right idea in that respect and its good for boxing.. however in house fights Top Rank are doing will not
      it's called matchmaking. you don't throw you prospect at an unknown quantity like maidana. I'm not against giving ortiz a real challenge, but against a known quantity that you know he should be able to handle.

      GBP matchmaking is the worst in boxing. they threw jmm in with floyd; they knew jmm had no chance. they made hopkins/rjj even though they knew that was a ****ty fight. they took their most marketable boxer (dlh himself) weight drained him to get down to 147 lbs to get crushed by pac. these guys at GBP are total buffoons.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #23
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Hes the WW IBF Champ and to be frank is a bum.

        Canelo would dominate him.
        that's what we thought maidana was too. I ain't saying alvarez can't do it, i'm just saying GBP history of poor matchmaking might ruin alvarez

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          #24
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          that's what we thought maidana was too. I ain't saying alvarez can't do it, i'm just saying GBP history of poor matchmaking might ruin alvarez
          Maidana always had heavy hands though. I dont see any power from Zaveck. Alvarez has the hype machine and the fan base to be the biggest star in the sport pone day Im sure Oscar will be careful.

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            #25
            Was Ortiz not around the 25 fight mark and had some amateur background? these kids need to step up man otherwise you get guys like Chavez Jr..

            The Marquez thing is completely different and was actually clever, Marquez lost nothing from fighting Floyd except getting a huge payday, think Marquez is 37 how many more big fights is he gonna be in?

            Hopkins/Jones is/was a disgrace not gonna argue that..

            GDP have the right idea with prospects though.. test them..

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              #26
              Originally posted by No Ceilings
              Maidana always had heavy hands though. I dont see any power from Zaveck. Alvarez has the hype machine and the fan base to be the biggest star in the sport pone day Im sure Oscar will be careful.
              I ain't sayin Zaveck is like maidana, just making a general comment on GBP matchmaking

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                #27
                Originally posted by snootz86
                Was Ortiz not around the 25 fight mark and had some amateur background? these kids need to step up man otherwise you get guys like Chavez Jr..

                The Marquez thing is completely different and was actually clever, Marquez lost nothing from fighting Floyd except getting a huge payday, think Marquez is 37 how many more big fights is he gonna be in?

                Hopkins/Jones is/was a disgrace not gonna argue that..

                GDP have the right idea with prospects though.. test them..
                you actually think GBP didn't think maidana was a bum?

                In any cause, look how GBP brought ortiz along.

                they put Ortiz in a butch of one-sided fights, and then they wanna test him with someone like maidana? that's ****in ******.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The Impaler
                  I love how you fools blame GBP for Victor Ortiz's lack of heart.
                  bingo!!!!!!!

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
                    I agree with you saying GBP doesn't know how to manage stars

                    Ortiz
                    Valero
                    Mosley
                    Hopkins
                    wait lets break this down a bit

                    Ortiz- remember Top Rank had him first so any development issues could have started there as well. Also, at some point a fighter brought along in the manner at which Ortiz was has to show his mettle. As far as I know I didn't see anyone on here giving Maidana much of a shot based on his lackluster performance against Kotelnik. Funny how revisionists now think Maidana was **** monster going into it and all lays on GBP's feet

                    Valero- uh what exactly are you supposed to do with a guy who isn't medically cleared to fight in the US and has had issues with law?

                    Mosley- a lot of it is his own doing or did we forget that he kept calling out Manny and only Manny during the entire summer even so far as asking for 140lbs. I actually talked to Bradley's co promoters and said they should take up the slack and offer their services to Shane and he said GBP didnt want that fight even at a catchweight because Shane only wants big names

                    Hopkins- I think we have seen why GBP has been hesitant in getting into the Hopkins fight business anymore. They at best broke even on April 3rd

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Eaner0919
                      wait lets break this down a bit

                      Ortiz- remember Top Rank had him first so any development issues could have started there as well. Also, at some point a fighter brought along in the manner at which Ortiz was has to show his mettle. As far as I know I didn't see anyone on here giving Maidana much of a shot based on his lackluster performance against Kotelnik. Funny how revisionists now think Maidana was **** monster going into it and all lays on GBP's feet

                      Valero- uh what exactly are you supposed to do with a guy who isn't medically cleared to fight in the US and has had issues with law?

                      Mosley- a lot of it is his own doing or did we forget that he kept calling out Manny and only Manny during the entire summer even so far as asking for 140lbs. I actually talked to Bradley's co promoters and said they should take up the slack and offer their services to Shane and he said GBP didnt want that fight even at a catchweight because Shane only wants big names

                      Hopkins- I think we have seen why GBP has been hesitant in getting into the Hopkins fight business anymore. They at best broke even on April 3rd


                      Good post man.

                      We cant blame GBP for Victor quitting.

                      Then with Mosley and Hopkins they turned down alot of fights that had nothing to do with GBP.

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