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  • Khalid X
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    #11
    Originally posted by No Ceilings
    Two Words: Jan Zaveck.
    If GBP does that, then they are idiots. He will be in the same bout Berto is which is being a world champ but not ready for world championship competition. You would be forcing Canelo to face opponents he isn't ready for, so the best thing to do is have him fight for an contential titles or something along those lines. He will still be a champion, but could be brought along slow and developed nicely.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #12
      Originally posted by Counter Punch
      Yes, he's a ****** millionaire and has failed at life.
      no, he's a ****** promoter who has failed with his prospects

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        #13
        Originally posted by No Ceilings
        Two Words: Jan Zaveck.
        don't know anything about the guy. could turn out to be another maidana moment. GBP should do some real scouting and matchmaking this time so they don't ruin alvarez like they did ortiz.

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        • Counter Punch
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          #14
          Originally posted by Pullcounter
          no, he's a ****** promoter who has failed with his prospects
          Name a better one. Bob Arum? Name another.

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          • Sweet Jesus
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            #15
            I love how you fools blame GBP for Victor Ortiz's lack of heart.

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            • B.U.R.N.E.R
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              #16
              Originally posted by O.S.I.R.I.S
              If GBP does that, then they are idiots. He will be in the same bout Berto is which is being a world champ but not ready for world championship competition. You would be forcing Canelo to face opponents he isn't ready for, so the best thing to do is have him fight for an contential titles or something along those lines. He will still be a champion, but could be brought along slow and developed nicely.
              Jan Zaveck is a bum my dude. Canelo would stomp a mudhole in him.

              The IBF is also very strict with mandos and stuff apparently:


              Champ: Jan Zaveck

              1. Rafael Jackiwicz
              2. NOT RATED
              3. Selcuk Aydin
              4. Isaac Hlatshwayo
              5. Delvin Rodriguez
              6. Randall Bailey
              7. Jackson Bonsu
              8. Carlos Abregu
              9. Alfonso Gomez
              10. Mike Jones
              11. Luis Collazo
              12. Said Ouali
              13. Jesus Soto-Karass
              14. Sebastian Lujuan
              15. Rudolpho Martinez




              Alvarez will be fine. If he has a belt it still wont force GBP to put him in over his head.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #17
                Originally posted by Counter Punch
                Name a better one. Bob Arum? Name another.
                Arum has a great track record for bring up his prospects. I don't know how you can dispute this

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                • MOTHER DUCKER
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  So if alvarez beats a Jose Cotto, who's best weight is at 135-140 and who lost to juan diaz, that means alvarez is ready for a title shot at 147???

                  please explain to me the logic. I don't understand how beating up a blown up lightweight makes a person ready for a titleshot at 147 lbs. DLH must be using floyd xylocaine jr logic: none.

                  this is why GBP is the worst promotional company for a prospect. Victor Ortiz anyone?
                  You call it exposing.. i call it giving a young guy a tough fight.. **** protecting fighters so much building weak records, having an unblemished record full of bums means nothing. GDP has the right idea in that respect and its good for boxing.. however in house fights Top Rank are doing will not

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Impaler
                    I love how you fools blame GBP for Victor Ortiz's lack of heart.
                    it's GBP matchmaking that put Ortiz in a situation to expose his lack of heart. they could've brought him along more slowly and tested that heart before they put him in with an unknown quantity like maidana

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Pullcounter
                      Arum has a great track record for bring up his prospects. I don't know how you can dispute this
                      Lol maybe you mean Chavez Jr??

                      Wtf is the point in not testing a prospect?? Victor Ortiz was what 20 fights into his pro career.. eventually these guys have to step up..

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