Hbo overpaid for berto-quintana!!!

[SoldierWarrior]

When you look at guys like Adamek, Pacman, JuanMa, Cotto, Most european fighters, and even some bums who sell tickets, it's because their promoters built them that way.

Doesn't hurt that Adamek has a large polish following, Pacquiao has a large following of all fans, JuanMa has the Puertorican fans, and Cotto has all the fans too.

[Siggy]

Danny Jacobs is the perfect example of how the boxing game works.

The kid is from NY, won Golden Gloves in NY and was really known in the NY boxing scene.

So he goes pro after not making an Olympic bid. I don't think the mother ****er has fought once in NY. WHy? Because his management isnt even trying to build him as a ticket seller in NY. All they want is that HBO money.

Al Haymon is his manager. All he does is leverage his talent pool to get other guys fights. The idea is to basically force HBO to put Jacobs on their cards.

But seriously, I was a huge fan of the kid, but I don't give two ****s about watching him until he fights a serious threat. And by that time, NY has already forgot about him. He can't come back here and be a ticket seller, nor can he be one anywhere else.

I don't think the kid can sell a thousand tickets anywhere and that's sad. Because hes from NY.

When you look at guys like Adamek, Pacman, JuanMa, Cotto, Most european fighters, and even some bums who sell tickets, it's because their promoters built them that way.

great post
there's no reason why berto shouldnt have fought his first 20 or so bouts in florida.

its a vicious cycle, but HBO's own impatience is the reason why they had to cut their budget.
there needs to be a change in strategy up top at HBO Sports though.
not every championship fight should be treated and paid for like a "premium" fight.

[DR.ORGYY]

berto got paid or a million for that fight?????damn i gotta pick up the pace.....

[Siggy]

Berto is a good young fighter. Hes doing fine. The kid just scored an immpressive KO goodness.

this thread has nothing to do with that.
jesus christ.....READ

[Iceta Lives]

Yeah, Berto is way overpaid. I think not only his lack of fan base is why HBO needs to make sure he gets lower purses. But him not stepping up in competition earlier in his career has hurt his fan base too. Fighters like Saul Alvarez, Chavez Jr., and Juan Ma Lopez can get away with fighting bums because they have a fan base based on ethnicity. But then again, Chad Dawson and Paul Williams fight who they are supposed to for the most part so what do I know.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

Another agenda piece from that fat **** Rafael. And he wrote this because [per a few reports at the venue] Al Haymon nearly ***** smacked him backstage. What he should focus on are the horrendous mismatches on ESPN and how ESPN only pays 25-30K per event when the guys in the broadcast booth make more money than the actual fighters. The only network were the announcers make more than the actual fighters in the ring.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

this thread has nothing to do with that.
jesus christ.....READ

I was respondind to YOU. You said HBO shouldnt back him.

Learn to Read.

[jrosales13]

Another agenda piece from that fat **** Rafael. And he wrote this because [per a few reports at the venue] Al Haymon nearly ***** smacked him backstage. What he should focus on are the horrendous mismatches on ESPN and how ESPN only pays 25-30K per event when the guys in the broadcast booth make more money than the actual fighters. The only network were the announcers make more than the actual fighters in the ring.

Wait what happened there?

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Another agenda piece from that fat **** Rafael. And he wrote this because [per a few reports at the venue] Al Haymon nearly ***** smacked him backstage. What he should focus on are the horrendous mismatches on ESPN and how ESPN only pays 25-30K per event when the guys in the broadcast booth make more money than the actual fighters. The only network were the announcers make more than the actual fighters in the ring.

Thats good hear I had ebough of his fat ass.

Off topic what happend to Ishe Smith's stuff on here.

[Siggy]

I was respondind to YOU. You said HBO shouldnt back him.

Learn to Read.

then quote ME like you just did for that post^^^.

berto is not a draw. he was not built properly and HBO is not getting a good return on investment, which will only lead to smaller budgets and less fights for us to see. they should either scale back on the berto push or pay him what he's worth.
either way, they should shift their focus to fighters who have an ability to create fanbases.

HBO is making a big mistake continuing to back him and pay him like they are.
that has nothing to do with "berto's young, good and just got a KO..."