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Originally posted by Bad Intentions
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Yup, I don't care when he beat Hopkins or Toney...he still beat them. Its not his fault Hopkins was too green and Toney weight problem. -
oh i get so sick of peopel saying hopkins wasnt developed. WELL NITHER WAS JONES THEY WERE THE SAME LEVELS APART THEN AS THEY ARE NOW. jones was better than hopkins than with neither one of them being developed, and jones and hopkisn both got better. if jones wouldnt have got any better and hopkind would have then ok there could be an argument but they both got apart so therefore there still as far apart as they were then. btw im meaning the jones of up until the losses against the hopkins of now. but jones will get back to that point with the tarver fight.Originally posted by THE TRUTHComment
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I agree with what your saying...Originally posted by zabkillsspinksComment
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One thing is certain after reading this thread, D.M. fans are not willing to accept the fact that Darius didn't want any part of fighting a Roy Jones Jr. - he had the chance, but he wouldn't leave his hometown judges, who would have given him a win unless he was totaly unconcious. Roy offered to meet him in a nuetral country and D.M. turned it down. They also can't see that D.M. had his hands full with fighters that Roy mopped the ring with.
Look fight fans, R.J.J. is probably one of the most naturally gifted athletes that this sport has ever seen, it is not his fault that the division was less than stellar at times, we don't hold it against Marciano do we?
Roy was heads and shoulders above the competition in his prime, and yes that means D.M. would have been taken apart by Jones. There is no part of D.M.'s game that would have been something that Jones couldn't handle.
As for the Quitsko Bros fan club founding member that posted the original piece, I'll say this about the brothers - it looks to me like they aren't even at the top of their own soft, -no - very soft division. And let's see how many more excuses they can come up with, and by the way, the list is already getting pretty damn long. It seems they have had nothing but excuses, but the real one is they can't take the punishment of the heavyweight division, just like Roy said, and may I add also, not without their "roids" - just look at the pics of Vitaly as tall skinny kick boxer and Vitaly as a boxer, hmmm, mighty powerfull, that Russian spinach!!!!Comment
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Not only did Ali dodge the draft, Didnt he throw is olympic gold metal away also? Its not the point if you agree with a war or not. When you are a citizen of a country you do have obligations. At that era he had an obligation to report to the army. He refused. Laws are laws and they need to be respected. I thought his refusal was an act of cowardice, not politics.Comment
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Originally posted by SHO-NUFF
Malcolm X said it best to me.
"If its wrong to be violent, defending black women, black children and black men. Then its wrong for america to draft us, and make us violent abroad on the face of the earth"
Dont you have a ****in clue what was happening to black people at the time? We were second class citizens with a government that had nerve enough to make us fight? It takes more balls to say "**** it i aint gonna go" than to ****in bow down and be like "ok yes sir, yes masta". So **** that. I wouldnt report to ****.Comment
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Roy showed he had a chin in the past. He just got cracked by 2 monster shots FLUSH that just about would KO anyone. Difference is back then he would have seen it a mile away and dodged it. Leave the shoulder rolling to Mayweather RoyComment
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58,000 dead. a couple million wounded and disfigured. people accepting the draft (like the mindless sheep they are) and people dodging the draft (the few Americans who had balls). all these facts surrounded the Vietnam war. with so many dead and wounded, what kind of chances do u think ali had of surviving that "war"?Originally posted by SHO-NUFF
ali put it best himself: "Why should I go off and fight a war for you when you won't even fight for me at home?"
"obligations of being a citizen of a country"? don't gimme that bull****. ali (as well as myself) would rather be a human with his own mind and will instead of a citizen with an "obligation".
honestly, would u go fight a war for the same country that wouldnt piss on you if you were on fire, the same country that would deprive you of every right you had as a human being?
ali didnt. i wouldnt. and if you would: go join the army and see what its like to "serve" your country.
cowardice? dont make me laugh. whos the bigger coward: the coward who does what hes told and doesnt challenge authority or the coward who stands up for what he believes in?Comment
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how the hell did this Ali/Vietnam draft thing come up?Comment
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