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  • Neuraxis
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    Roy Jones emulates everything wrong with boxing

    I got this off another site. I thought it summed up my point of view quite nicely.

    "You can't deny his talents but his outside the ring behavior for the last decade defined everything that is wrong with the sport of boxing. This man lied to the fans, spoiled many potential fights, and acted as though he was untouchable. He routinely acted like he was bigger than the sport and made it clear that in order for him to fight any legitimate threat, said threat would have to bend over backwards and make a load of sacrifices just to get the fight. He also consistently went out of his way to belittle, insult, and call out people he had no intention of fighting.

    For some reason, fight fans accepted this garbage and even promoted it. They felt like Roy Jones could go around fighting obviously inferior competition without testing himself and he could just retain his p4p title no matter what. They gave him the pass because they foolishly thought he was unbeatable, so it didn't matter who he fought because he would beat everyone anyway. Of course this was ridiculous, but it mattered little in the eyes of many fans and members of the media.

    Finally, we see why he avoided tough competition for so long. He went nearly a decade without fighting anyone who presented a challenge, and he got KTFO twice. Yes his reflexes have diminished, but that doesn't mean his chin just became tappable overnight. The chin was always there, it's just that he avoided top flight fighters for so long, and so many of his opponents were intimidated by him that they didn't really try to tap his chin, it never got tested. Is there really any question now as to why he didn't want to fight Michalczewski? Why he backed out of the Jirov fight with the contract signed by Jirov? Why he backed out of the Buster Douglas fight when the contract signed by Douglas? No. He might have been harder to hit, but that questionable chin was always there. (He forgot to mention Sanders)

    Roy Jones was a great athletic talent but he was terrible for the sport in many ways. You don't deserve to be mentioned in the breath of greats like Hagler, Robinson, Leonard, Duran, Ali, and so forth when you refuse to test yourself and fight the best. This guy was bad for the sport of boxing and all I can say is good riddance. Glen Johnson was the best choice to flush Jones' career. Glen Johnson exemplifies everything that's good about the sport of boxing, he is the anti-Jones."
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    #2
    Originally posted by Neuraxis
    I got this off another site. I thought it summed up my point of view quite nicely.
    That's a good article.

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    • puppy_dogg
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      leonard snorted *******, duran was an alcholic and ali refused to fight for his own country. im a big fan of all these guys but trying to say that anyone is perfect for the sport is just ******. the roy haters are just thrashing him with everything in the book now that hes vunerable to be critisized, he was a great fighter and deserves to be mentioned in the "same breath" with a hell of alot more great fighters than shown here. let the man retire in peace.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Yoko
        leonard snorted *******, duran was an alcholic and ali refused to fight for his own country.
        What does drinking and refusing to kill innocent people have to do with how good a boxer is?

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          #5
          Originally posted by Yoko
          leonard snorted *******, duran was an alcholic and ali refused to fight for his own country. im a big fan of all these guys but trying to say that anyone is perfect for the sport is just ******. the roy haters are just thrashing him with everything in the book now that hes vunerable to be critisized, he was a great fighter and deserves to be mentioned in the "same breath" with a hell of alot more great fighters than shown here. let the man retire in peace.

          That was Great YOKO. this thread should be closed now.

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          • Dr Cynical
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            #6
            Originally posted by Neuraxis
            I got this off another site. I thought it summed up my point of view quite nicely.

            "You can't deny his talents but his outside the ring behavior for the last decade defined everything that is wrong with the sport of boxing. This man lied to the fans, spoiled many potential fights, and acted as though he was untouchable. He routinely acted like he was bigger than the sport and made it clear that in order for him to fight any legitimate threat, said threat would have to bend over backwards and make a load of sacrifices just to get the fight. He also consistently went out of his way to belittle, insult, and call out people he had no intention of fighting.

            For some reason, fight fans accepted this garbage and even promoted it. They felt like Roy Jones could go around fighting obviously inferior competition without testing himself and he could just retain his p4p title no matter what. They gave him the pass because they foolishly thought he was unbeatable, so it didn't matter who he fought because he would beat everyone anyway. Of course this was ridiculous, but it mattered little in the eyes of many fans and members of the media.

            Finally, we see why he avoided tough competition for so long. He went nearly a decade without fighting anyone who presented a challenge, and he got KTFO twice. Yes his reflexes have diminished, but that doesn't mean his chin just became tappable overnight. The chin was always there, it's just that he avoided top flight fighters for so long, and so many of his opponents were intimidated by him that they didn't really try to tap his chin, it never got tested. Is there really any question now as to why he didn't want to fight Michalczewski? Why he backed out of the Jirov fight with the contract signed by Jirov? Why he backed out of the Buster Douglas fight when the contract signed by Douglas? No. He might have been harder to hit, but that questionable chin was always there. (He forgot to mention Sanders)

            Roy Jones was a great athletic talent but he was terrible for the sport in many ways. You don't deserve to be mentioned in the breath of greats like Hagler, Robinson, Leonard, Duran, Ali, and so forth when you refuse to test yourself and fight the best. This guy was bad for the sport of boxing and all I can say is good riddance. Glen Johnson was the best choice to flush Jones' career. Glen Johnson exemplifies everything that's good about the sport of boxing, he is the anti-Jones."
            Perfectly said.
            RJJ needs to leave boxing for good or come back and end up like "G-man".

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            • puppy_dogg
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              #7
              Originally posted by Nautilus
              What does drinking and refusing to kill innocent people have to do with how good a boxer is?
              absolutley nothing. you obviously did'nt understand how i was replying to what was said about jones, read it again.

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              • doomeddisciple
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                #8
                Your missing the point - This view has surfaced quite a bit since Jones lost to Tarver and the best version of it I read was the article entitled "Libertaion" in the Ring Magazine with Bernard Hopkins on the cover - The issues that covered the Hopkins Allen, DLH Sturm fight.

                The Liberation article gave Jones his due for skills - But noted that there are a fair few qualities of Jones that wont be missed - Namely all the tough talking and then taking lame mandatory title challenegers, holding HBO to ransom for crappy matchups and not really fighting in a manner of a warrior, more of the reluctant hero.

                As usual at this point in a career - Its easy to come out of the woodwork and hate on the guy - But the bottom line is Jones WAS the best fighter of the 90s - And for all the good and bad experiences he provided us with - He's now not really in a position to fight on.

                I hope he takes stock of an awesome career and retires with dignity.

                If someone is a b o x i n g t a l k member - There's a member only feature where they got a quote from Roy re: His future - Go check it and tell us what it said!

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                • Dr Cynical
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Yoko
                  leonard snorted *******, duran was an alcholic and ali refused to fight for his own country. im a big fan of all these guys but trying to say that anyone is perfect for the sport is just ******. the roy haters are just thrashing him with everything in the book now that hes vunerable to be critisized, he was a great fighter and deserves to be mentioned in the "same breath" with a hell of alot more great fighters than shown here. let the man retire in peace.
                  "Duran was an alcoholic" So was Tunney and alot of other great boxers.

                  "Leonard snorted *******" I know he wasn't the only one to do that.

                  "Ali refused to fight for his own country" So what? He had no reason to go there and kill innocent people in the name of a country that oppressed him.
                  I'm against the draft and fighting senseless wars for this country too.

                  At least these guys never did steroids.
                  Something that RJJ did.

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                  • Nautilus
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Yoko
                    absolutley nothing. you obviously did'nt understand how i was replying to what was said about jones, read it again.

                    Then you did not understand the original article.

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