Roy Jones emulates everything wrong with boxing

[rocco1252]

Hold on Hold on let me say something here! Jones, Hagler, Robinson, Leonard, Duran, Ali, and Marciano! Did I just mention all those fighters in the same breath OOPS MY BAD!! HAHAHAHA Jones could have been the best there was he just got hit twice really good his chin was there he just got hit really good plain and simple, many fighters get dropped by a good punch from the worst fighters How can you say he ducked everyone he fought everyone that was in front of him and he beat him everyone was just too afraid to really fight him and come on Douglas you have to be kidding me I have never heard more crap in one article in my life I wouldnt fight douglas either I dont even know why Tyson did he has always been a bum and got lucky that one time! Jones is great and when Tarver and him fight again he is going to win!

[kallsop]

No one in the US was in any danger of being killed or even hurt by the Viet Cong.
The only americans who were, were the ones who went over there starting **** without any real information.

That war was complete bull****.

When the US withdrew, the North Vietnamese crushed the South and killed more than 1 million civilians. Remember, this was in the era of Cold War and many people were of the belief that the spread of Communism had to be stopped and Vietnam was the place. Also, WW-II was not so distant and people just had a different mindset than many do today. Living through the Holocaust and saying "never again" actually meant something.

Muhammad Ali was totally within his rights to be a conscientous objector, and should not have been stripped of his freedom and boxing titles IMO. Draftees got a bad deal, considering it was not voluntary, but enlisted military were doing what they agreed to do for their country. If you sign up for military service, you don't get to decide which are in your opinion good and bad assignments.

By the way, Nixon took us out of the war in 1973. To this day, there has not been a fair election in Vietnam since the end of the war. There was not a single boat person prior to 1973. After that, people fled from South Vietnam by any means possible. Do you know any boat people? I know a couple, and they were lucky to escape. Their siblings and parents didn't make it out alive.

Should Americans care enough to protect others from mass murder? I hope we continue to do so. That some others do not tells us something about them, and you'll pardon me if I think our values are superior.

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Should Americans care enough to protect others from mass murder? I hope we continue to do so. That some others do not tells us something about them, and you'll pardon me if I think our values are superior.

and also continue PROMOTING mass murder like in latin america in the 70s

[El Jesus]

ali refused to fight for his own country. .

**** Vietnam, like he said "Nobody in Vietnam ever called me a ******".

I wouldnt have ****in went neither. At that time, black people could barely have any equal rights, defending women and children from lynchings/church burnings/cross burnings etc. Man **** all that ****.

[Bozo_no no]

The 1st post in this thread is really rich coming from one of the biggest Vitali Klitschko Nut Huggers around.

[Bad Intentions]

All i got to say is Roy beat two of the best fighters 2day in Hopkins & Toney...And beat them both soundly..Roy woulda beat any one in his weight classes in his era...i dont care what people say...

[El Jesus]

QUESTION .... when you hear somebody say something like "Jones was/is my favorite fighter?" What do you say to them? I usually say nothing, 'cause I figure a true fight fan does not choose Jones to represent.

Thats ******ed, being a "true fight fan" means knowing the sport and having some insight on who is who in boxing. You dont need to like a certain fighter to be considered a true ****ing fight fan, my fav team in the NBA is the Warriors, they suck year in and year out, does it mean im not a true basketball fan because my team sucks so hard? No, it would be cliche to say "oh well, im a true fight fan, one of my fav fighters is sugar ray robinson, as well as eder joffre". Man **** that, like who you like as long display some knowledge on the sport.

[littlerobot]

roy jones

A lot of boxing fans share certain attributes that resemble professional wrestling fans: the bravado and drama are more important than the literal skill of the athlete. Many boxers go most of their careers fighting lesser opponents, causing the casual boxing fan to go "Wow, this guy must be really great, he's knocking fools out left and right". But the story occurrs over and over - that the superstar picks a nobody (thinking it an easy victory) without knowing that that "nobody" is going to knock him out. See: Buster Douglass and Glen Johnson.

Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins are both millionaires for fighting nobody's for the most part. It's not that they're not skilled (or were), it's just that eventually they go up against a nobody who realize they are a nobody and seize the opportunity to become a somebody by not being intimidated by the star boxer in the opposing corner.

to quote denzel washington in "Training Day": It ain't checkers, it's chess.

[DiegoFuego]

"Its not so much his of chin as it is his heart though. He's like a dog that can't fight from the bottom. Nope he did not (ever have heart), because he never had it, its just that he was so big that you never got the chance to see him fight from the downside...Probably it (retiring) would be a good idea for him to because he's only a six round fighter and only Butterbean can really handle that...They (the Klitschkos) cannot take what they dish out."

He's 0-2 since saying this.

So you hate Roy for telling the truth?

[TheEvilSaint]

well, first we have to find out whats wrong with boxing:

-bad decisions
-boring fights
-all talk and no walk fighters
-selling out
-fight dodgers
-money-grubbers
-posers
-overhyped fighters never live up to expectations
-little or no risk-takers
-fighters claim to be the best even though they never prove it
-little or no main-stream appeal
-brutal, memorable slugfests are too few and far between
-guys with weak chins act like badasses
-quitters
-upsets by mediocre opponents (except tarver's far better than mediocre)
-long lay-offs
-only two fights a year (three if ur lucky)
-excuses galore!
-and nobody likes challenges

... yep... sounds just like roy jones jr!