Comments Thread For: Mayweather's Trainer: Floyd is Knocking Shane Mosley Out

[Marlo Stanfield]

Mosleys not getting stopped. It ain't happening. He might take a beating, even then Lil Floyd don't hit that hard to mark Shane up. Cotto landed at will and look at Mosley's face after 12 rounds.

More of a chance seeing Mosley KO'ing Mayweather, then the other way round.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Floyd will likely simply fight his fight, hell look for an opening and capitolize. I honestly think mosley will do what he always does and thats paw at him with a jab and look to throw something big, over and over and over again. Mosley makes alot of key mistakes, like closing his eyes when he punches, telegraphing his hooks and his overhand rights. Either way if it was someone other than mayweather it wouldnt be that huge. Mosley also squares up alot, its something you see even when hes throwing on a heavy bag.

You will also see mosleys timing and punch output possibly go down as the fight goes on. Again, mayweather will look for openings, mosley will likely have some mild success early, but mayweathers movement and timing will eventually annoy mosley.

People keep talking about how heartless and fragile mayweather is but we all know thats bull****, its mosley who has that problem, and if mayweather throws enough straight right hands to offset his timing and if mayweather fights him on the inside and outside and use his footwork to setup counters like i think he is, Mosley is in trouble.

Truthfully, mosley is just going to have to get lucky, because its not going to be his skill that will win him the fight. The issues mosley has have been there for years and its why he struggles with guys who either have good footwork (cotto) or guys with good jabs (forrest/weight/oscar in the 2nd fight), its his stance and his inability to move his big ass head. Hes there to be hit peroid.

Good points.I see Mosley laying back alot more in this fight.May is not a busy fighter anymore and I think this is why Mosley will be able to lay back a lil.He can attack then fall back and let May come forward and try to get him.IMO if he gets May to start coming forward he already won half the battle.Some would say so what he came forward vs Hatton and Judah Imo those guy's are not in Mosley's league and Zab can't stay focus past 2to4 rds.But it should be a great night of boxing and i'm happy to be getting ready to view history.

[GRUSTLER]

Lol Dude when May fought JLC Cotto was not even a name to be talk of with Floyd so I'm a lil confused about your point here.Floyd had won belts in two different weightclasses No?Cotto did not even have a belt yet.Chop Chop fought May first right.so once again i don't understand your point.Bottom line the time to fight Cotto was after the Hatton fight.But he Proved all he had to in the sport of boxing.

Wasn't Miguel Cotto at the Arturo Gatti fight along with
Ricky Hatton? Again, Jim Lamply said that Cotto was one
of the opponents next in line to fight Floyd along with
Hatton? It took Hatton a couple more fights to build up
his confidence to challenge Floyd because prior, his camp
said Ricky wasn't ready and as for Cotto? Didn't hear Floyd's
name out of his mouth for the rest of his come up.
True or False?

[switchsouthpaw]

Mosleys not getting stopped. It ain't happening. He might take a beating, even then Lil Floyd don't hit that hard to mark Shane up. Cotto landed at will and look at Mosley's face after 12 rounds.

More of a chance seeing Mosley KO'ing Mayweather, then the other way round.

Mayweather will win, but you can't question Shane's heart, it's an intangible quality. Sugar sought rematches against naturally bigger men twice, so it's hard to question his toughness. Getting inside on Mayweather is difficult at best, once you do you're lost when he goes into the shoulder roll and counters everything like he did against Oscar, you either end up hitting arms, gloves or shoulders all while he can see it coming.

Mosley has speed and power, how much speed is the question because at times in the past few years he has looked horrid, but it's hard to tell, maybe he is capable of getting up for one last great performance.

May is very good to great in every single department, from offense to defense the man is as instinctively talented as they come. The only question left is can he take a flush punch like the type that Mosley can deliver, something tells me he can but it's the only question that has a path to victory for Mosley. Mayweather by UD, but I've been wrong before.

[GRUSTLER]

My point is Cotto was a natural jr-welter and Floyd who hadn't shown good power @135 had just come up in weight to 140. Cotto's camp flat out said hell no we aint ****in with Floyd. They wanted no part at no time. Cotto never called Floyd's name. Floyd wanted Cotto to be a part of the Margarito deal also. Bob Arum protected his investment. People forget that Bruseles was Cotto's stablemate put in to gauge Floyd. Cotto was at ringside and said hell no I aint ****in with that dude. You can blame it on being green but I think it was a move similar to Shane saying he wants no part of Williams.

Oh man! I'm so happy that someone else gets it. Miguel Cotto
style was tailor made for Floyd. Just imagine if Floyd was in the
ring with Cotto instead of Torres or Corley and Cotto got hurt
like that? It would have been lights out for Cotto and too early
for him to get exposed that bad in his career. Zab busted Cotto's
face open in their fight. Just imagine Floyd who doesn't fold under
pressure. I wish that fight did happen and Cotto would have been
another W on Floyd's record.

[Rome-By-Ko]

My point is Cotto was a natural jr-welter and Floyd who hadn't shown good power @135 had just come up in weight to 140. Cotto's camp flat out said hell no we aint ****in with Floyd. They wanted no part at no time. Cotto never called Floyd's name. Floyd wanted Cotto to be a part of the Margarito deal also. Bob Arum protected his investment. People forget that Bruseles was Cotto's stablemate put in to gauge Floyd. Cotto was at ringside and said hell no I aint ****in with that dude. You can blame it on being green but I think it was a move similar to Shane saying he wants no part of Williams.

I heard this be said before but never seen any proof of any negotiation.I could be wrong being I never heard of them ever having any real talks.Once again May was fighting longer then Cotto way more experienced was already elite like Hoya and Mosley.So the time for them to fight would have been right after the Hatton and Shane fight's it was set up perfectly but he proved everything he had to prove in the sport of boxing.(The reason I keep saying that is because i was so mad when he said it).I waited all the way for that sham of a fight with Hatton was over for him to retire and not fight Cotto real lame.

[switchsouthpaw]

I heard this be said before but never seen any proof of any negotiation.I could be wrong being I never heard of them ever having any real talks.Once again May was fighting longer then Cotto way more experienced was already elite like Hoya and Mosley.So the time for them to fight would have been right after the Hatton and Shane fight's it was set up perfectly but he proved everything he had to prove in the sport of boxing.(The reason I keep saying that is because i was so mad when he said it).I waited all the way for that sham of a fight with Hatton was over for him to retire and not fight Cotto real lame.

He would have beat Cotto, but it wouldn't have been easy, which means he still should have fought him. He would have teed off on Margarito, so he can get a pass on that. My question is after Mosley, where does Mayweather go from here...any names?

I completely understand cashing in against Oscar and Hatton, but Hatton went life and death with Collazo, that should have been the first hint. Oscar fought once a year and wasn't living the lifestyle of an active fighter and that can't be discounted, he was still talented but inconsistent, in boxing inconsistency is a death knell, we all know that whether or not we'd like to admit it. Now that the money fights are out of the way, his talent requires more, it's unfair but when you're blessed with that level of talent, more is expected of you.

Mayweather could beat all these guys, he has the talent and defensive prowess to do it. People would be arguing not about whether or not he is an all time great, but whether or not he ranks among the best to ever lace them up period, only he can answer that question by the challenges that he seeks.

[Sugar Q]

Wasn't Miguel Cotto at the Arturo Gatti fight along with
Ricky Hatton? Again, Jim Lamply said that Cotto was one
of the opponents next in line to fight Floyd along with
Hatton? It took Hatton a couple more fights to build up
his confidence to challenge Floyd because prior, his camp
said Ricky wasn't ready and as for Cotto? Didn't hear Floyd's
name out of his mouth for the rest of his come up.
True or False?

Grus, they'll say anything to discredit PBF. People can not disassociate his personality from his skills which is beyond me. I got mad love for Shane but the Shane of the last 5 years has little to no chance against a well rested, revitalized PBF. We aint talking about some average fighter, we're talking about the real P4P best fighter in the world.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Wasn't Miguel Cotto at the Arturo Gatti fight along with
Ricky Hatton? Again, Jim Lamply said that Cotto was one
of the opponents next in line to fight Floyd along with
Hatton? It took Hatton a couple more fights to build up
his confidence to challenge Floyd because prior, his camp
said Ricky wasn't ready and as for Cotto? Didn't hear Floyd's
name out of his mouth for the rest of his come up.
True or False?

True never heard Cotto talk about Floyd then again I really never heard Cotto talk about anybody.Hatton at the time when May fought Gatti had damn near 40 fights how many did Cotto have?Oh how many did May have?How many tittles did Cotto have how many did May have?He was green the time for that fight aggggg how many times do I have to say this .I can't believe you can disagree with this?Cotto was more of a complete fighter by this time and more of a name.So the Money was there the Name Recognition was there.But he Proved everything he needed to prove in the sport of Boxing.Come on that's not a lil suspect to you?

[GRUSTLER]

I heard this be said before but never seen any proof of any negotiation.I could be wrong being I never heard of them ever having any real talks.Once again May was fighting longer then Cotto way more experienced was already elite like Hoya and Mosley.So the time for them to fight would have been right after the Hatton and Shane fight's it was set up perfectly but he proved everything he had to prove in the sport of boxing.(The reason I keep saying that is because i was so mad when he said it).I waited all the way for that sham of a fight with Hatton was over for him to retire and not fight Cotto real lame.

OK, so if you feel this way. Can you PLEASE tell me. Why would
Floyd need to duck or avoid Cotto when clearly, Floyd has always
been more experienced and ELITE than Cotto? I remember Roger
Mayweather saying if Cotto got passed Margarito that Floyd would
be interested in fighting him.