why not put the pressure on the commissions?

[Reloaded]

I really do not know the answer to this, but can you show me something that proves this was in the initial agreement? Article, video, something reliable, not one of the Mayweathers or PAcs camp stating their sides. A real source, and also can you show me where you got the information of the mediator telling Pacs camp to stop lying?

I'm not hating here, just want to see where you gather your info.

It was in the first draft presented to Team Pac , Im sure somebody will post the articles from Shaefer stating it ..... now you explain how Arum over looks the deal breaker all the while making other demands only to walk out on what they knew about all along , it dont make sense ! ,,,, but when you look at the angle that they didnt expect Floyd to agree to everything they had to go back to the OST to pull out , and then they signed Clottey in a day , lol , Arum did not want a Mayweather fight that seems obvious to me , he was crying everyday No fight .

[Gutz]

No...for the 4,000,000,000 time it was there from the outset.

Lets see..

negotiations started Nov 24th..

Negotiations to make Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight ... nothing about OST

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4682772

more about negotiations talks.. Dec 2nd

More about venue, time and date of the fight and purse split talks.. .. again nothing about OST..

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4705330

Now we come to Dec 10th.. First talks about OST.. infact almost 3 weeks into negotiations.. Mayweathers throws in OST testing after everything is going fine.. So technically OST was never part of the initial bout agreement

[IMDAZED]

Lets see..

negotiations started Nov 24th..

Negotiations to make Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr. fight ... nothing about OST

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4682772

more about negotiations talks.. Dec 2nd

More about venue, time and date of the fight and purse split talks.. .. again nothing about OST..

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4705330

Now we come to Dec 10th.. First talks about OST.. infact almost 3 weeks into negotiations.. Mayweathers throws in OST testing after everything is going fine.. So technically OST was never part of the initial bout agreement

Actually, no. As Dan Rafael stated on ESPN with Brian Kenny - during the interview where Teddy Atlas spoke, it was in there from the outset. This has been repeated multiple times by countless sources. Furthermore, Pac's camp agreed. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. But you guys are clinging on for dear life and I don't blame you.

[Gutz]

Actually, no. As Dan Rafael stated on ESPN with Brian Kenny - during the interview where Teddy Atlas spoke, it was in there from the outset. This has been repeated multiple times by countless sources. Furthermore, Pac's camp agreed. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. But you guys are clinging on for dear life and I don't blame you.

Teddy Atlas.. I see
This is the same guy who said there was a email going around from Pac camp asking what are the penalitys if Pac test positived. which was totally BS...

[Reloaded]

I really do not know the answer to this, but can you show me something that proves this was in the initial agreement? Article, video, something reliable, not one of the Mayweathers or PAcs camp stating their sides. A real source, and also can you show me where you got the information of the mediator telling Pacs camp to stop lying?

I'm not hating here, just want to see where you gather your info.

" Schaefer says "random Olympic-style drug testing" should not be a surprise to Pacquiao because the drug testing clause was including in the original draft of the fight contract for March 13. The fight has crumbled in the last week after Pacquiao and his promotional company refused to have the USADA handle the Olympic-style drug testing. Pacquiao was willing to take up to three blood tests in connection with the fight and agreed to use a company other than the USADA. "

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24343

[IMDAZED]

Teddy Atlas.. I see
This is the same guy who said there was a email going around from Pac camp asking what are the penalitys if Pac test positived. which was totally BS...

Right...

Anyway, let's try to comprehend - here, lemme help:

Actually, no. As Dan Rafael stated on ESPN with Brian Kenny - during the interview where Teddy Atlas spoke, it was in there from the outset. This has been repeated multiple times by countless sources. Furthermore, Pac's camp agreed. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. But you guys are clinging on for dear life and I don't blame you.

[IMDAZED]

" Schaefer says "random Olympic-style drug testing" should not be a surprise to Pacquiao because the drug testing clause was including in the original draft of the fight contract for March 13. The fight has crumbled in the last week after Pacquiao and his promotional company refused to have the USADA handle the Olympic-style drug testing. Pacquiao was willing to take up to three blood tests in connection with the fight and agreed to use a company other than the USADA. "

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24343

Get the links ready...they're going to find something else to nitpick as they desperately cling to their already-demolished beliefs.

[the gent]

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Benz/DHBenz1211b09.htm

Only several days after negotiations began and weeks before they broke down.

sorry, but that is the same article i have read for months, written by many different writers, and it doesn't say anything so shocking or discrediting. So am a little confused s to what your trying to prove.

They both agreed, just didn't agree on the cut off. Negotiations come to a halt. What's the mystery here? Also, still waiting on the mediator source.

[IMDAZED]

sorry, but that is the same article i have read for months, written by many different writers, and it doesn't say anything so shocking or discrediting. So am a little confused s to what your trying to prove.

They both agreed, just didn't agree on the cut off. Negotiations come to a halt. What's the mystery here? Also, still waiting on the mediator source.

Right...who said there was a mystery?

[Reloaded]

sorry, but that is the same article i have read for months, written by many different writers, and it doesn't say anything so shocking or discrediting. So am a little confused s to what your trying to prove.

They both agreed, just didn't agree on the cut off. Negotiations come to a halt. What's the mystery here? Also, still waiting on the mediator source.

Now you explain how the deal breaker gets left to last when it was in the first draft ,,,, dont make sense does it ?