why not put the pressure on the commissions?

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I'm assuming arum why?

Ahh ok. I'm wondering because before you made it seem like ESPN had said so and thus, it was true. But now we know Arum said it. The same Arum who broke the mediator's rules and lied about the proceedings. BTW, ESPN also mentioned that Pacquiao's team initially agreed to the testing. Oh and by the way again, neither Arum, Pacquiao, nor Mayweather would know what USADA protocol was until well after agreeing.

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yeah...so?

My point exactly.

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What did this have to do with PAC? re-read your post, then re-read mine. If this is the best you can come up with, then we are wasting each others time. Your praise Floyd to be this ICON who can make changes, and i just stated why hasn't he to the full extent? Wanting testing for just his fights is not how to change the sport, or clean it up. Remember supposedly he is the face of Boxing and i'm sure your on board with that statement so why not just follow through with his own BS that he spews about cleaning up the sport, not just cleaning up HIS fights.

So where is FLOYD true to his actions? According to your comment, he just wants those HE feels are juicing tested. How is that wanting to change the SPORT?

When did I praise Floyd as an icon? This post is filled with lies, hate and just BS. I think you have the wrong guy.

[the gent]

Ahh ok. I'm wondering because before you made it seem like ESPN had said so and thus, it was true. But now we know Arum said it. The same Arum who broke the mediator's rules and lied about the proceedings. BTW, ESPN also mentioned that Pacquiao's team initially agreed to the testing. Oh and by the way again, neither Arum, Pacquiao, nor Mayweather would know what USADA protocol was until well after agreeing.

So your implying that they all agreed on something they had no knowledge of?

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So your implying that they all agreed on something they had no knowledge of?

I'm not implying. I said it. Olympic Styled Testing means unannounced urine and blood testing. Both parties agreed. Then - as negotiations were winding down - one party all of a sudden wanted a cap on the blood testing. Then when they got that, they wanted an even lesser amount. Then when they got that, they wanted to dictate when those tests could be given. That camp couldn't come up with a single viable explanation for their actions. Yet through it all, idiots like the TS are making threads about the other guy.

[pistol whip]

Ahh ok. I'm wondering because before you made it seem like ESPN had said so and thus, it was true. But now we know Arum said it. The same Arum who broke the mediator's rules and lied about the proceedings. BTW, ESPN also mentioned that Pacquiao's team initially agreed to the testing. Oh and by the way again, neither Arum, Pacquiao, nor Mayweather would know what USADA protocol was until well after agreeing.

Your operating under the same assumption I am. The truth is other than that Arum quote the only thing I see in other articles is that Olyimpic style drug testing was agreed to but none of it says that both sided agreed to it being conducted under the exact USADA's protocol. Plus what makes GBP word gold in the matter. All parties are weasel like promoters so at this point I don't know who agreed to what but lets not get off track here.


One fighter is still asking for special drugtesting for his fights and his fights only because a potential opponent is "too good". We can argue symantics all we want but the truth is it still boils down to a dog and pony show where one fighter is still looking to distract another.

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I'm not implying. I said it. Olympic Styled Testing means unannounced urine and blood testing. Both parties agreed. Then - as negotiations were winding down - one party all of a sudden wanted a cap on the blood testing. Then when they got that, they wanted an even lesser amount. Then when they got that, they wanted to dictate when those tests could be given. That camp couldn't come up with a single viable explanation for their actions. Yet through it all, idiots like the TS are making threads about the other guy.

Show me where they agreed to the "exact" OSDT protocol. And don't put some article that just says they agreed to OSDT either. I want a valid source that confirms that they accepted both OSDT and it's protocol for Blood tests.

[Bogler]

My point exactly.

right. go on...

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Your operating under the same assumption I am. The truth is other than that Arum quote the only thing I see in other articles is that Olyimpic style drug testing was agreed to but none of it says that both sided agreed to it being conducted under the exact USADA's protocol. Plus what makes GBP word gold in the matter. All parties are weasel like promoters so at this point I don't know who agreed to what but lets not get off track here.

I think you're looking for the truth to...not be the truth. What is the point you're trying to make here? That they didn't know it would be done by USADA? What are you basing that on? Who did they think was going to do it? Roger?

One fighter is still asking for special drugtesting for his fights and his fights only because a potential opponent is "too good". We can argue symantics all we want but the truth is it still boils down to a dog and pony show where one fighter is still looking to distract another.

That's how YOU feel and that's YOUR opinion. The FACT is that Floyd and Shane agreed, are doing it, and say they are fine with it. Maybe you should be fine with it too.

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right. go on...

Go on about?