Comments Thread For: Mayweather Says Mosley's Lack of a Jab is a Big Problem

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Rome c'mon you know Twizzel, Twizzy, T-Dub whatever he calls himself and Sugar-pants both share the same kryptonite, it's called "specifics".

Switch. You are an intellegent poster from what I can see. Why do you call other posters out of their names?

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Sorry Mosley is a better body puncher then Cotto.

Agreeed. Shane IS a better body puncher than Cotto.

[switchsouthpaw]

Switch. You are an intellegent poster from what I can see. Why do you call other posters out of their names?

It was all in jest...relax.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Honestly? It was at a sports bar and they gave out free chicken wings that night.

I watch boxing on espn ocho rather than going out lol-- I just like boxing period. I sometimes just go to the boxing gym and just hang out, but I also get paid to do it.

That is admirable(no sarcasim) that you go to gyms just to hang out. I plan to do the same as I dont know the DC area well enough. I truely love Boxing.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Lol you see why I asked that question and when they do respond, they have to explain it..."well Zab Judah but hold up they were the same size and blah, blah, blah".

I just asked for a name not an explanation, but they felt the need to explain it, I wonder why lol?

If you like I can answer your question. You wont care for my answer but I can give an answer and reinforce it.

[switchsouthpaw]

That is admirable(no sarcasim) that you go to gyms just to hang out. I plan to do the same as I dont know the DC area well enough. I truely love Boxing.

Nothing greater than two men evenly matched pitting their wills against the other. I remember hating Evander Holyfield until his first fight with Rid**** Bowe and became a converted fan that night, he earned my respect even in losing.

Some guys prefer to earn your respect by telling you how much money they make, how many PPVs they've sold, throwing money up in clubs all while taking little risk, in other words all flash no substance.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Co-sign this post I'm a boxing baseball guy I said it baseball.LOL

I used to LOVE baseball(back in the mid-late 80's) but the strike after the San Fran earthquake of '89 turned me off. I got back in in '97-'98 but the steroid issue turned me back off. Who is ya team Rome? Imma Gulf Coast Boy myself so I have to go with them "H" Town Astros for MY team.

[switchsouthpaw]

If you like I can answer your question. You wont care for my answer but I can give an answer and reinforce it.

Ok go for it....keep in mind that I think Zab Judah in many ways could have been better than Floyd, but the problem is that he is a mental midget.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Rome you my potna slick but lets look at this realistically.

Floyd had 2 fights before the Baldomir fight: Shamba(great measuring stick at the time for your 1st fight at 147), and then Zab(which was the fight that at the time everybody wanted 'even the casual fan wanted that fight', as Zab was still considered EXTREMELY skilled). Zab in his previous fight lost the "LINEAL" title to Baldy(mind you Zab was at WW a entire year before Floyd), as Baldy was spossed to be a tune up for Floyd. Well the tune up became the tune up from hell as he beat Zab down, and took his title(as Zab overlooked him because the Floyd fight was on the table signed sealed and delivered). After beating Zab(while Floyd remained calm in the midst of the "malee in the ring", he did what everyone at the time wanted him to do; that wa to fight Baldy and "prove" himself as the "MAN" at 147. So Floyd obliges and does so.

After Floyd gets rid of Baldy he fights ODH. This is the fight that propted Floyd to leave Bob Arum in the 1st place, as Floyd wanted this fight and Bob was done playing with his old toy(Floyd) and had moved on to his "new" toy(Cotto). Floyd agrees to ALL terms set forth by ODH(as ODH knows the cards he holds and what his "Boxing" worth is.......they didn't call him the "Golden Boy" for nothing).

So Floyd beats ODH, and moves on to the next big threat......Hatton. Hatton was preceived as a threat to Floyd as he had just KO'd JLC the very same year that he fought Floyd('07 if I'm not mistaken, I probably should check BoxRec....but oh well, I'll work with memory). Now mind you everyone is impressed with Ricky and think he has a legitimate chance and breaking Floyd off; so once Floyd embarasses Ricky, the search is on for another fighter to shut Floyd's mouth. Remember Ricky beat Collazo at 147 and then went back down to 140, so it wasn't Ricky's 1st WW fight.

After Floyd KO's Ricky he retires(briefly). At the end of 2K6 Floyd is fighting for the lineal title and Cotto(for instance is fighting his 1st fight at WW for the "vacant" WBA title, at the same time Margo is fighting Clottey, and Paul hasn't even fought Margo yet so there is no benefit in fighting any of these fighters other than Cotto; who we all know Bob was not going to allow.

So my question is what was Floyd spossed to do given the landscape of the WW division and high value fights "at THAT particular time? This aint just for you to answer Rome my man; THIS is for ALL to answer.

Chiefy you my confidonte but I have to put the Floyd fact's on the table.

Floyd had 2 fights before the Baldomir fight: Shamba(great measuring stick at the time for your 1st fight at 147), and then Zab(which was the fight that at the time everybody wanted 'even the casual fan wanted that fight', as Zab was still considered EXTREMELY skilled). Zab in his previous fight lost the "LINEAL" title to Baldy(mind you Zab was at WW a entire year before Floyd), as Baldy was spossed to be a tune up for Floyd. Well the tune up became the tune up from hell as he beat Zab down, and took his title(as Zab overlooked him because the Floyd fight was on the table signed sealed and delivered). After beating Zab(while Floyd remained calm in the midst of the "malee in the ring", he did what everyone at the time wanted him to do; that wa to fight Baldy and "prove" himself as the "MAN" at 147. So Floyd obliges and does so.

I think everything you said here is right.While I still feel that every name up there is easy picking for a tru elite fighter this is all tru.

After Floyd gets rid of Baldy he fights ODH. This is the fight that propted Floyd to leave Bob Arum in the 1st place, as Floyd wanted this fight and Bob was done playing with his old toy(Floyd) and had moved on to his "new" toy(Cotto). Floyd agrees to ALL terms set forth by ODH(as ODH knows the cards he holds and what his "Boxing" worth is.......they didn't call him the "Golden Boy" for nothing).

This is also tru and I have giving Floyd credit on this win many times on this site.He fought great and pulled out the campionship rd's.(which I felt he needed I had it a draw after 10)

So Floyd beats ODH, and moves on to the next big threat......Hatton. Hatton was preceived as a threat to Floyd as he had just KO'd JLC the very same year that he fought Floyd('07 if I'm not mistaken, I probably should check BoxRec....but oh well, I'll work with memory). Now mind you everyone is impressed with Ricky and think he has a legitimate chance and breaking Floyd off; so once Floyd embarasses Ricky, the search is on for another fighter to shut Floyd's mouth. Remember Ricky beat Collazo at 147 and then went back down to 140, so it wasn't Ricky's 1st WW fight

Now here is were it gets funny and suspect.Hatton perceived as a threat hell no.Most boxing insiders knew what this was Money getting Money off a fighter who was not in his league.When May was fighting Hatton which I believe was going into dec 07 which means it was basically 08.Cotto had already fought and beat Mosley in Nov 07 a month before.So you know what that means with his win over face first Hatton Cotto was next up and Marga's a tall Mexican who you can't seem to hurt right around the corner.It looks to me when the tough got tough Money got going.Oh and hatton beat a shell of JLC he was over weight for the fight(meaning he was not even at the Jr WW limit)and look fat and old(check that fight for your self and you do the math).He also beat Tuzu but he was also old but gave a better account of him self then JLC did.

After Floyd KO's Ricky he retires(briefly). At the end of 2K6 Floyd is fighting for the lineal title and Cotto(for instance is fighting his 1st fight at WW for the "vacant" WBA title, at the same time Margo is fighting Clottey, and Paul hasn't even fought Margo yet so there is no benefit in fighting any of these fighters other than Cotto; who we all know Bob was not going to allow.

You know were I come out on this were there's money a fight can be made.I believe he retired because the wall's were closing in.I like to think of may as an opportunist.He was fighting at 140lb Zab win the WW title he say I can beat Zab of course Zab is not on May's level and if you knew boxing you knew Zab had no chance.But to casual fan Zab has a name smart move get the name but the risk is not really there with Zab.On to the next one Baldy lol not gonna even bother.Onto the next one Hoya now he took a risk fighting Hoya even then Hoya would have beating most fighters.Oh and I really think that was Hoya's last go round(Sorry Manny)Hatton over rated just like Khan and Line Joey.over rated IMO.so let's see and look again Shamba who come-on had no shot.Zab who just came off a lost and everybody who knows boxing knows his MO so knew he had no chance.Baldy lol.Hatton over rated.Then when it was time for some real fights mouth watering fights that true blue boxing fans were craving for he say's he has nothing else to prove.except for Hoya he proved nothing lets be real real and call him what he is.OPPORTUNIST!!!!!!!!

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

It's hard to say when you're fighting a guy who is 38 years old, you never know on any given night when that moment comes, when the guy actually looks like he is 38, that possibility exists for anyone in sports and make no mistake that day comes for everyone up there in age.

This is very tru.