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  • #71
    I just hope that all the people that are saying Shane will
    KO Floyd and yadda, yadda, give Floyd his props IF he beats
    Mosley and don't revert back to the "Mosley is old" reference.
    I want to see all the naysayers man up.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by amayseng View Post
      absolutely. i agree.

      however, i see a different and more efficient strategy.

      i see shane throwing combos following efficient pressure, then jumping back away from floyds single pot shots....

      easily winning rounds due to activity, kinda like pac did against clottey.

      then midway thro the fight floyd may be down and have to fight a little then thats when shane mixes it up with power shots, then a round later back to combos, staying away for adding up rounds.

      pac won 11 rounds by just being active against clottey, he didnt land cleanly or accurately but did more.

      i see strategy as being the way to beat floyd.

      no way floyd trades with shane like he did zab, zab swept the first 4 rounds and knocked floyd down
      I actually think Zab was/is quicker than Shane. Shane throws
      punches too wide and he loads up on all his big shots, sometimes
      going off balance while Judah had quicker relexes and didn't
      expose himself as much as Mosley does or will do. Anyways, that
      comparison is mute because eventhough Zab may have took 4 rounds
      he got completely dominated the rest of the fight and went into
      a desparate, dirty tactics mode, so comparing Zab and Mosley
      doesn't make sense. In my opinion, Floyd was feeling Zab out
      in the early rounds. Will see how everything plays out May 1st.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Piper the Great View Post
        so do you think that floyd can lose 3-5 of the first 5 & win easy?
        floyd will lose if he loses the first 5 rounds.
        he can win if he ko/tko mosley....but won't happen.
        floyd can catch up if he's just down by 3 in the first 5.
        i pick mosley to win...be it a tko or decision.
        mosley is far better experienced boxer than any floyd met.
        but he better train hard for the long haul.....

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        • #74
          HeY. Heavyhands, care to put some money down on that Floyd by ko7 prediction of yours?

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          • #75
            Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            I actually think Zab was/is quicker than Shane. Shane throws
            punches too wide and he loads up on all his big shots, sometimes
            going off balance while Judah had quicker relexes and didn't
            expose himself as much as Mosley does or will do. Anyways, that
            comparison is mute because eventhough Zab may have took 4 rounds
            he got completely dominated the rest of the fight and went into
            a desparate, dirty tactics mode, so comparing Zab and Mosley
            doesn't make sense. In my opinion, Floyd was feeling Zab out
            in the early rounds. Will see how everything plays out May 1st.
            i completly understand. zab has superior initial quickness, but shane throws overall better combos.

            i was just making the point that zab sweeping the first four shows that it can be done.

            plus zab got a kd against floyd and shane has superior power.

            plus i never expected zab to fight 12 rounds, when has he ever?

            sometimes shane is wide and looping, other times he is short and straight
            ( watch both marg and collazo fights)

            i think shanes problem in the past is that he felt he could always beat his opponents physically because he is a great athlete. i think naz has helped him understand he needs strategy and plus at this later part of his career, he has to alter his mindset, he must have a strategy against floyd.

            i really think shane will ud floyd due to overall activity and racking up rounds.

            if floyd wins i will give him props, but i honestly dont see it happening.

            i see shane using efficient effective pressure, not chasing him down. i also see shane backing off a lot in rounds he is winning early, conserving energy and making floyd come forward later in the fight when he is down rounds.

            floyd is overall more talented, but shane has the tools to win this.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              I just hope that all the people that are saying Shane will
              KO Floyd and yadda, yadda, give Floyd his props IF he beats
              Mosley and don't revert back to the "Mosley is old" reference.
              I want to see all the naysayers man up.
              And vice versa. Problem is that it is a fact that Shane will be 39 and not fought in 18 months......so haters will always have those facts to draw from.

              Me, I give Floyd tons of props if he wins (even more so if he doesn't straigt stink it out like v dlh). I'm picking mosley to win.

              Zab was quicker than Shane is now, but zab was never elite. Zab is floyd'sxbest wn since lw according to most Floyd fans (I did a poll on here) and that's not good news. It took tszyu one rd to figure out zab. It took Floyd four, but zab never varied his attack, his only variance was to foul more.
              If Shane gets a lead in the fight, Floyd is in trouble because then Floyd can't lay back and figure out his oppenents offense all fight like he usually does. If Floyd needs to press in this fight, or be offensive at all (other than his jab and straight right) he could be in big trouble.

              The obvious prediction is Floyd by ud, 26 out of 30 "experts" polled are taking Floyd (according to ringtv, it's something like that) and Floyd is a 3-1 favorite by the way according to Vegas, so truth is that Floyd fans really better give it up if Shane wins.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                I just hope that all the people that are saying Shane will
                KO Floyd and yadda, yadda, give Floyd his props IF he beats
                Mosley and don't revert back to the "Mosley is old" reference.
                I want to see all the naysayers man up.

                I want Shane to win it does'nt mean he's going to. Shane is 38 and they are hyping it to make you believe Shane will beat him. But I've been around boxing for a long time and I understand that this is part of the promotion. Floyd's got the stye that can beat Mosley but the guys that did beat Mosley were much bigger men then Floyd. I want Mosley to win plain and simple but it does'nt change the fact that he is 38 and that he's been outboxed before. If Shane can match him in every aspect and leave Floyd with no choice but to fight I say Shane takes it. Floyd is'nt very tough and that's just an undenyable fact. Shane is very tough and physically stronger than Floyd. If it turns into a fight at all Shane will win.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by amayseng View Post
                  absolutely. i agree.

                  however, i see a different and more efficient strategy.

                  i see shane throwing combos following efficient pressure, then jumping back away from floyds single pot shots....

                  easily winning rounds due to activity, kinda like pac did against clottey.

                  then midway thro the fight floyd may be down and have to fight a little then thats when shane mixes it up with power shots, then a round later back to combos, staying away for adding up rounds.

                  i see strategy as being the way to beat floyd.

                  no way floyd trades with shane like he did zab, zab swept the first 4 rounds and knocked floyd down
                  yours is the winning strategy for mosley.
                  shane should fyt aggressively in the first 4-5 rounds to pile points before floyd figures him out.
                  then he switches to floyds way of counterpunching to throw floyd's rythym off in the next 3-4 rounds.
                  floyd will have to take it to him to catch up on points.
                  ryt, this is when mosley mixes it up with hard shots...floyd will back pedal here.
                  mosley should come up with mixed approach/style in fighting.
                  floyd can only win on points....so shane must present different angles after every 2-3 rounds....to confuse floyd.
                  floyd will lose if he can't figure out mosley's pattern.

                  for the fun of it:
                  i say 50k on mosley over floyd.

                  meantime i will relay this game plan to mosley's camp.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                    I just hope that all the people that are saying Shane will
                    KO Floyd and yadda, yadda, give Floyd his props IF he beats
                    Mosley and don't revert back to the "Mosley is old" reference.
                    I want to see all the naysayers man up.
                    hey grust, bra....
                    my 50k on mosley >> floyd

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                      I just hope that all the people that are saying Shane will
                      KO Floyd and yadda, yadda, give Floyd his props IF he beats
                      Mosley and don't revert back to the "Mosley is old" reference.
                      I want to see all the naysayers man up.
                      hey grust, bra....
                      my 50k on mosley >> floyd

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